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		<title>By: Tim Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agents doing short sales will love this...we hve been told several times that the largest lenders are working on establishing their &#039;prefered agents&#039; to represent them...ie refer their borrowers who have to do short sales to these agents. 
In the next year or less there will be simply massive opportunities for agents who in the short sale/ reo end of the business. Exciting time to be in the business provided you are the flow of opportunity. Lemme know if there is anything we can do to help.
Tim and Julie Harris
www.AgentREOSecrets.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agents doing short sales will love this&#8230;we hve been told several times that the largest lenders are working on establishing their &#8216;prefered agents&#8217; to represent them&#8230;ie refer their borrowers who have to do short sales to these agents.<br />
In the next year or less there will be simply massive opportunities for agents who in the short sale/ reo end of the business. Exciting time to be in the business provided you are the flow of opportunity. Lemme know if there is anything we can do to help.<br />
Tim and Julie Harris<br />
www.AgentREOSecrets.com</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Rathbun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Rathbun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW:  I&#039;ve only heard of one lender denying the contract because the agents wouldn&#039;t take a pay-cut.  The lenders ARE paying closing cost and ARE paying commissions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW:  I&#8217;ve only heard of one lender denying the contract because the agents wouldn&#8217;t take a pay-cut.  The lenders ARE paying closing cost and ARE paying commissions.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Rathbun</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/real-estate-sales-marketing/short-sales-talk-me-into-them-if-you-can/#comment-21650</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Rathbun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeanine:  There are no set commissions, so a specific commission being named is one step too close to a nice Anti-Trust lawsuit.  

The listing broker should set their fee for service at whatever they deem necessary - not what they read on a blog.

Cohen:  You need to check your local MLS rules and regs, ours (THANK GOD) have done away with  remarks over-riding the commission line.  There are no Variable Rate Commissions.  What you list as the commission in the commission line is what the buyer agent gets paid.

Listing Brokers need to train their agents better.  Most MLS state that the commission in the commission line is what is paid for procuring a ready, willing and able buyer.  If the listing agent isn&#039;t prepared to take a loss, I a.) recommend that the listing agent get a backbone and standup to the lender who IS NOT A PRINCIPAL to the listing agreement and therefore has no right to negotiate the commission.  They either accept or deny the contract.  I don&#039;t see them negotiating with the settlement attorney, trustee, home inspector or any other party to reduce their commission.  If the risk manager for the lender agrees to cut their salary - I&#039;ll agree to cut mine.
b.)  the broker needs to be willing to pay the buyer agent commission regardless of what they make.  That&#039;s the risk they take with agents who can&#039;t stand up to lenders, take short sales that couldn&#039;t possible get approved, etc...

Both my state law and the Code of Ethics forbid negotiating the commission with the offer to purchase or even after you&#039;ve &quot;introduced the property to the client&quot;.  Therefore you have to negotiate the commission prior to showing the client.

This is complicated in that you typically also have an obligation to show a client all properties that meet their requirements, unless you have expressed permission to exclude certain properties.  My best advise is to sit with the buyer, educate them on how potentially difficult it can be to purchase a short sale and how if you wait long enough, it&#039;ll be REO&#039;d and they can get it for cheaper anyway.  (that&#039;s in our area - may not be the same for yours)

There is a great program out there at RealtyU, called CSP or Certified Shortsale Professional.  It&#039;s a great one day program, that can be taken online and covers all of this.

The biggest issues here is all the variables, how is YOUR market, what are the rules and regs in YOUR state and MLS, which lender are your clients dealing with and how comfortable are you with the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeanine:  There are no set commissions, so a specific commission being named is one step too close to a nice Anti-Trust lawsuit.  </p>
<p>The listing broker should set their fee for service at whatever they deem necessary &#8211; not what they read on a blog.</p>
<p>Cohen:  You need to check your local MLS rules and regs, ours (THANK GOD) have done away with  remarks over-riding the commission line.  There are no Variable Rate Commissions.  What you list as the commission in the commission line is what the buyer agent gets paid.</p>
<p>Listing Brokers need to train their agents better.  Most MLS state that the commission in the commission line is what is paid for procuring a ready, willing and able buyer.  If the listing agent isn&#8217;t prepared to take a loss, I a.) recommend that the listing agent get a backbone and standup to the lender who IS NOT A PRINCIPAL to the listing agreement and therefore has no right to negotiate the commission.  They either accept or deny the contract.  I don&#8217;t see them negotiating with the settlement attorney, trustee, home inspector or any other party to reduce their commission.  If the risk manager for the lender agrees to cut their salary &#8211; I&#8217;ll agree to cut mine.<br />
b.)  the broker needs to be willing to pay the buyer agent commission regardless of what they make.  That&#8217;s the risk they take with agents who can&#8217;t stand up to lenders, take short sales that couldn&#8217;t possible get approved, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Both my state law and the Code of Ethics forbid negotiating the commission with the offer to purchase or even after you&#8217;ve &#8220;introduced the property to the client&#8221;.  Therefore you have to negotiate the commission prior to showing the client.</p>
<p>This is complicated in that you typically also have an obligation to show a client all properties that meet their requirements, unless you have expressed permission to exclude certain properties.  My best advise is to sit with the buyer, educate them on how potentially difficult it can be to purchase a short sale and how if you wait long enough, it&#8217;ll be REO&#8217;d and they can get it for cheaper anyway.  (that&#8217;s in our area &#8211; may not be the same for yours)</p>
<p>There is a great program out there at RealtyU, called CSP or Certified Shortsale Professional.  It&#8217;s a great one day program, that can be taken online and covers all of this.</p>
<p>The biggest issues here is all the variables, how is YOUR market, what are the rules and regs in YOUR state and MLS, which lender are your clients dealing with and how comfortable are you with the process.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeanine Metts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeanine Metts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M. Cohen, Yes, put 6% down, disclose in the realtor remarks that the buyer&#039;s agent will receive 50% of the lenders approved commission. Get it in writing from the buyers agent that they will accept 1/2 of total commissions. If you have the buyer, they may want you to reduce to 4% for both sides. As Tim &amp; Julie Harris said, take a class. I found one through Keller Williams, and one of my Title Companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M. Cohen, Yes, put 6% down, disclose in the realtor remarks that the buyer&#8217;s agent will receive 50% of the lenders approved commission. Get it in writing from the buyers agent that they will accept 1/2 of total commissions. If you have the buyer, they may want you to reduce to 4% for both sides. As Tim &amp; Julie Harris said, take a class. I found one through Keller Williams, and one of my Title Companies.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 01:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are a few things to consider when it comes to short sales. This is based on personally doing and coaching agents to do literally thousands of short sales.
1) The bank WILL pay normal commissions...
2) The bank WILL pay buyers closing costs...
provided that the net to the bank is within a certain percent of the BPO. For example: BPO comes in at $300k. Bank expects to net around 90% of BPO. With that said, we are now seeing banks accepts 15% less than BPO. 
Short sales will soon become the defacto solution to the massive real estate mess we are now in. Expect to see short sales to become the solution. Today, its typical to see lenders closing shorts in 45-60 days. With a offer thats above the 90% BPO the lenders will close in less than 45 days. In other words, about the same time as a closing where the seller isnt upside down.
Bottom line, learn how to do short sales asap. We have a free book that you might want to grab at 
Hope all of this helps!
Tim (and Julie) Harris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are a few things to consider when it comes to short sales. This is based on personally doing and coaching agents to do literally thousands of short sales.<br />
1) The bank WILL pay normal commissions&#8230;<br />
2) The bank WILL pay buyers closing costs&#8230;<br />
provided that the net to the bank is within a certain percent of the BPO. For example: BPO comes in at $300k. Bank expects to net around 90% of BPO. With that said, we are now seeing banks accepts 15% less than BPO.<br />
Short sales will soon become the defacto solution to the massive real estate mess we are now in. Expect to see short sales to become the solution. Today, its typical to see lenders closing shorts in 45-60 days. With a offer thats above the 90% BPO the lenders will close in less than 45 days. In other words, about the same time as a closing where the seller isnt upside down.<br />
Bottom line, learn how to do short sales asap. We have a free book that you might want to grab at<br />
Hope all of this helps!<br />
Tim (and Julie) Harris</p>
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		<title>By: M. Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 21:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it difficult for the selling agent to get paid their commission on a short sale?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it difficult for the selling agent to get paid their commission on a short sale?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeanine Metts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeanine Metts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an old blog, but worth responding. I agree with Christina. Save the sellers credit is the reason. Maybe not to buy a house in 3 months, but to buy a car down the road, cell phone, etc. I&#039;ve successfully closed 4 in the last 8 months. I have 3 more out there. I expect them to sell. More than general inventory. The secret is explaining the advantages to the seller, the bank &amp; buyers. I take them for 15% under the lowest comp in the area. I work hard on showing these figures and suppy &amp; demand to the banks. It is a WIN, WIN, WIN, WIN situation. I get paid, seller gets 70-120 less point reduction on their credit, Banks get more money than a auction or forclosure, the buyer gets a deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an old blog, but worth responding. I agree with Christina. Save the sellers credit is the reason. Maybe not to buy a house in 3 months, but to buy a car down the road, cell phone, etc. I&#8217;ve successfully closed 4 in the last 8 months. I have 3 more out there. I expect them to sell. More than general inventory. The secret is explaining the advantages to the seller, the bank &amp; buyers. I take them for 15% under the lowest comp in the area. I work hard on showing these figures and suppy &amp; demand to the banks. It is a WIN, WIN, WIN, WIN situation. I get paid, seller gets 70-120 less point reduction on their credit, Banks get more money than a auction or forclosure, the buyer gets a deal.</p>
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		<title>By: John Wake</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Wake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 01:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want to do short sales because they are a lot more work for a lot less money. The time I would be working on a short sale I would not be working on a more profitable transactions, or developing systems to find more profitable transactions.

Short sales are a real specialization.  I know there are other agents that can do it better than I can. I don&#039;t know how to do short sales well and I hope business doesn&#039;t get to the point where I have to learn.

As soon as I find out a lead is a short sale, I offer them sympathy, not services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want to do short sales because they are a lot more work for a lot less money. The time I would be working on a short sale I would not be working on a more profitable transactions, or developing systems to find more profitable transactions.</p>
<p>Short sales are a real specialization.  I know there are other agents that can do it better than I can. I don&#8217;t know how to do short sales well and I hope business doesn&#8217;t get to the point where I have to learn.</p>
<p>As soon as I find out a lead is a short sale, I offer them sympathy, not services.</p>
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		<title>By: Christina Ethridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina Ethridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan:

It&#039;s more than &quot;monetarily there’s no gain but in theory it does give the ability to buy again.&quot;

I&#039;ve never been one that has subscribed to the whole &quot;I sell real estate and it&#039;s not about the money, it&#039;s about helping people&quot; philosophy.  I work because I want to make a living and create a better life for myself and my family.  If I didn&#039;t have to work, I would not be interested in helping other people buy and sell real estate on, I would only be doing it for our family foundation.

Now, with my selfish motives out in the open - working the short sales that we have is a way to truly help people, and provide a life for my family at the same time.

It really does help people.  Our sellers are ever so thankful.  It&#039;s a huge stress off their backs.  Foreclosure is THE worst thing you can do to your credit, period.  It&#039;s a horrendous experience and stressful for sellers.

It&#039;s about doing the best they can to &#039;make good&#039; on a financial commitment.  It&#039;s about getting the stress off their back.  It&#039;s about securing the ability to overcome your mistakes and have a future.  It&#039;s about trying to save both them and the lender money by not having to go forward with foreclosure.

No, not every seller cares about any of this.  But most do, no matter what types of loans they took out or how they spent the equity.

I needed to say all of this right now - I just got off the phone with the absolute worst &quot;Recovery Specialist&quot; I have ever dealt with and it&#039;s taken me almost an hour just to &#039;cool off&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s more than &#8220;monetarily there’s no gain but in theory it does give the ability to buy again.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never been one that has subscribed to the whole &#8220;I sell real estate and it&#8217;s not about the money, it&#8217;s about helping people&#8221; philosophy.  I work because I want to make a living and create a better life for myself and my family.  If I didn&#8217;t have to work, I would not be interested in helping other people buy and sell real estate on, I would only be doing it for our family foundation.</p>
<p>Now, with my selfish motives out in the open &#8211; working the short sales that we have is a way to truly help people, and provide a life for my family at the same time.</p>
<p>It really does help people.  Our sellers are ever so thankful.  It&#8217;s a huge stress off their backs.  Foreclosure is THE worst thing you can do to your credit, period.  It&#8217;s a horrendous experience and stressful for sellers.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about doing the best they can to &#8216;make good&#8217; on a financial commitment.  It&#8217;s about getting the stress off their back.  It&#8217;s about securing the ability to overcome your mistakes and have a future.  It&#8217;s about trying to save both them and the lender money by not having to go forward with foreclosure.</p>
<p>No, not every seller cares about any of this.  But most do, no matter what types of loans they took out or how they spent the equity.</p>
<p>I needed to say all of this right now &#8211; I just got off the phone with the absolute worst &#8220;Recovery Specialist&#8221; I have ever dealt with and it&#8217;s taken me almost an hour just to &#8216;cool off&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Lengquist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Lengquist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the right buyer, the patient buyer, short sales can lead to instant equity.   I&#039;ve done this successfully many times.  Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the right buyer, the patient buyer, short sales can lead to instant equity.   I&#8217;ve done this successfully many times.  Just a thought.</p>
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