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		<title>By: Art Vuilleumier</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/politics-and-news/climate-change-or-chains-ag-sunday-politics/#comment-61526</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Vuilleumier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Climate Change or Chains?  Sunday Politics - http://ow.ly/wnL2 - #AgentGenius #Realtor #RealEstate #Maine #Ocala&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Climate Change or Chains?  Sunday Politics &#8211; http://ow.ly/wnL2 &#8211; #AgentGenius #Realtor #RealEstate #Maine #Ocala</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Missy Caulk</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/politics-and-news/climate-change-or-chains-ag-sunday-politics/#comment-40120</link>
		<dc:creator>Missy Caulk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, thank you for the link and the graphs. 

The Waxman-Markey bill would kill jobs, increase fuel costs and be very expensive for American consumers. We would also be importing more foreign oil. 
Time to open up our own natural resources and not be foreign oil dependent. 
Add to that the International Offsets provision and it will be the largest transfer of wealth our country has seen. 
According to the EPA, over 1.4 Trillion sent overseas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, thank you for the link and the graphs. </p>
<p>The Waxman-Markey bill would kill jobs, increase fuel costs and be very expensive for American consumers. We would also be importing more foreign oil.<br />
Time to open up our own natural resources and not be foreign oil dependent.<br />
Add to that the International Offsets provision and it will be the largest transfer of wealth our country has seen.<br />
According to the EPA, over 1.4 Trillion sent overseas.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Pangburn</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/politics-and-news/climate-change-or-chains-ag-sunday-politics/#comment-40106</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Pangburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of the global average temperatures for the entire 20th century and until the present are readily calculated with no consideration whatsoever of changes to the level of atmospheric carbon dioxide or any other greenhouse gas. The method uses only the time-integral of sunspot count and 32-year long up trends and down trends that have an amplitude of 0.45 C and are probably related to the Pacific Decadal Oscillation. Data sources, a graph that overlays the measured and calculated temperatures from 1880 to 2008 and a detailed description of the method are in a new paper at http://climaterealists.com/index.php?tid=145&amp;linkbox=true . The standard deviation of the difference between concurrent calculated and measured average global temperatures is 0.064 C. There is no Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) (and therefore no human caused climate change) from added atmospheric carbon dioxide. Invoking Cap and Trade would be an egregious mistake that would have no effect on climate but would further cripple the economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of the global average temperatures for the entire 20th century and until the present are readily calculated with no consideration whatsoever of changes to the level of atmospheric carbon dioxide or any other greenhouse gas. The method uses only the time-integral of sunspot count and 32-year long up trends and down trends that have an amplitude of 0.45 C and are probably related to the Pacific Decadal Oscillation. Data sources, a graph that overlays the measured and calculated temperatures from 1880 to 2008 and a detailed description of the method are in a new paper at http://climaterealists.com/index.php?tid=145&amp;linkbox=true . The standard deviation of the difference between concurrent calculated and measured average global temperatures is 0.064 C. There is no Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) (and therefore no human caused climate change) from added atmospheric carbon dioxide. Invoking Cap and Trade would be an egregious mistake that would have no effect on climate but would further cripple the economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Missy Caulk</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/politics-and-news/climate-change-or-chains-ag-sunday-politics/#comment-40079</link>
		<dc:creator>Missy Caulk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken, I know how you feel, it is a bit overwhelming...AND your comment is great. Windmills are a great use of energy. Lots of testing on that going on in Michigan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken, I know how you feel, it is a bit overwhelming&#8230;AND your comment is great. Windmills are a great use of energy. Lots of testing on that going on in Michigan.</p>
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		<title>By: Missy Caulk</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/politics-and-news/climate-change-or-chains-ag-sunday-politics/#comment-40078</link>
		<dc:creator>Missy Caulk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Baldguy, why don&#039;t you tell us how you really feel?  Of course we can&#039;t change the climate...only one Person I know can, and He sits in the heavens and laughs. Psalms 2:4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Baldguy, why don&#8217;t you tell us how you really feel?  Of course we can&#8217;t change the climate&#8230;only one Person I know can, and He sits in the heavens and laughs. Psalms 2:4.</p>
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		<title>By: BawldGuy</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/politics-and-news/climate-change-or-chains-ag-sunday-politics/#comment-40077</link>
		<dc:creator>BawldGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The arrogance of Man is peaking in our time. Control climate? What sorta colossal ego does that take to even contemplate longer than it takes to laugh at the endless punch lines available? 

Geez, only a century &#039;till we&#039;re outa coal? Whatever will we do? (guy wringing hands in background) Gimme a break people. I like Stephanie&#039;s idea -- more clearly stated as taking the pseudo logic generated by the terminally stupid concept of PC, out of the equation. 

I wonder where nuclear technology will be in the next 20 years, much less 100? What if horses were thought to have been dying out at the turn of the 20th century? Would we have developed the cult of the horse, using PC crappola, or would we have developed the automobile and air travel? 

Take PC bullying out of the equation, and the world doesn&#039;t need coal in the next 10-20 years ever again. Global warming has recently morphed into &#039;Climate Change&#039; cuz the undeniable facts had begun to pull their collective pants down. When it comes to that subject, my favorite factoid is the two &#039;scientists&#039; who had a best seller 30 years ago about the &#039;coming ice age&#039; who&#039;re now at the forefront of the &#039;global warming crisis&#039;. 

It&#039;s all a crock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The arrogance of Man is peaking in our time. Control climate? What sorta colossal ego does that take to even contemplate longer than it takes to laugh at the endless punch lines available? </p>
<p>Geez, only a century &#8217;till we&#8217;re outa coal? Whatever will we do? (guy wringing hands in background) Gimme a break people. I like Stephanie&#8217;s idea &#8212; more clearly stated as taking the pseudo logic generated by the terminally stupid concept of PC, out of the equation. </p>
<p>I wonder where nuclear technology will be in the next 20 years, much less 100? What if horses were thought to have been dying out at the turn of the 20th century? Would we have developed the cult of the horse, using PC crappola, or would we have developed the automobile and air travel? </p>
<p>Take PC bullying out of the equation, and the world doesn&#8217;t need coal in the next 10-20 years ever again. Global warming has recently morphed into &#8216;Climate Change&#8217; cuz the undeniable facts had begun to pull their collective pants down. When it comes to that subject, my favorite factoid is the two &#8216;scientists&#8217; who had a best seller 30 years ago about the &#8216;coming ice age&#8217; who&#8217;re now at the forefront of the &#8216;global warming crisis&#8217;. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s all a crock.</p>
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		<title>By: James Wheelock</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/politics-and-news/climate-change-or-chains-ag-sunday-politics/#comment-40038</link>
		<dc:creator>James Wheelock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 07:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see how anyone can argue whether or not the world is experiencing a change in climate. However, I do think it is fair to ask the question as to whether or not it is humans that are causing it. Now  after all of the reading I have done I still cannot decide what side of the fence I am on when it comes to that question, but I don&#039;t think that we need to answer it.

I personally am very confused as to why we need to have a huge brandable catastrophe to make the decision that we all would be better off without pollution. This is the bigger question in my book. Why must we see our very near demise to care about air quality? If you look at the growing (as a percentage) respiratory  health issues that are being seen in larger cities how can you not see a need to do something. We are beyond a doubt polluting our world at a rate beyond what the ecosystems can clean up. This is why we need to make advances in alternative energy sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see how anyone can argue whether or not the world is experiencing a change in climate. However, I do think it is fair to ask the question as to whether or not it is humans that are causing it. Now  after all of the reading I have done I still cannot decide what side of the fence I am on when it comes to that question, but I don&#8217;t think that we need to answer it.</p>
<p>I personally am very confused as to why we need to have a huge brandable catastrophe to make the decision that we all would be better off without pollution. This is the bigger question in my book. Why must we see our very near demise to care about air quality? If you look at the growing (as a percentage) respiratory  health issues that are being seen in larger cities how can you not see a need to do something. We are beyond a doubt polluting our world at a rate beyond what the ecosystems can clean up. This is why we need to make advances in alternative energy sources.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Brand</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/politics-and-news/climate-change-or-chains-ag-sunday-politics/#comment-40019</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Brand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Real estate often gives me a headache.  All the in&#039;s and out&#039;s.

Global warming give me a migraine.  Who and what to believe.  I know this.  We should conserve energy and avoid waste and personally polluting.  I don&#039;t think government is the answer, it&#039;s us ALL doing our little part.  You don&#039;t have to be a tree hugger, what ever that is, but individually consider what we consume and what we waste.  

I&#039;m more concerned that one day, China will wrap all 10 of it&#039;s fingers around fossil fuels throat, then we&#039;re in deep do-do.  I&#039;m in favor of incenting alternative fuel generation...pronto.  Let the rest of the world have oil, we need dylithium crystals, or wind/wave and who knows what power.

I forget who said it, &quot;It&#039;s better to remain silent than to open your mouth and prove you&#039;re an idiot&quot;, but, I think I should have listened to them before writing this comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Real estate often gives me a headache.  All the in&#8217;s and out&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Global warming give me a migraine.  Who and what to believe.  I know this.  We should conserve energy and avoid waste and personally polluting.  I don&#8217;t think government is the answer, it&#8217;s us ALL doing our little part.  You don&#8217;t have to be a tree hugger, what ever that is, but individually consider what we consume and what we waste.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m more concerned that one day, China will wrap all 10 of it&#8217;s fingers around fossil fuels throat, then we&#8217;re in deep do-do.  I&#8217;m in favor of incenting alternative fuel generation&#8230;pronto.  Let the rest of the world have oil, we need dylithium crystals, or wind/wave and who knows what power.</p>
<p>I forget who said it, &#8220;It&#8217;s better to remain silent than to open your mouth and prove you&#8217;re an idiot&#8221;, but, I think I should have listened to them before writing this comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Green Newswire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Green Newswire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Climate Change or Chains? AG Sunday Politics: So you suggest not only adding to our environmental/economic debt .. http://bit.ly/1lHNWA&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Green Newswire</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/politics-and-news/climate-change-or-chains-ag-sunday-politics/#comment-61528</link>
		<dc:creator>Green Newswire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Climate Change or Chains? AG Sunday Politics: So you suggest not only adding to our environmental/economic debt .. http://twurl.nl/gztb1q&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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