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	<title>Comments on: Stats? I Don&#8217;t Need No Stinking Stats!</title>
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		<title>By: PR - Real Estate</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/realtors/stats-i-dont-need-no-stinking-stats/#comment-59075</link>
		<dc:creator>PR - Real Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 02:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Stats? I Don’t Need No Stinking Stats! http://bit.ly/HBuuy #postrank #real_estate&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Stats? I Don’t Need No Stinking Stats! http://bit.ly/HBuuy #postrank #real_estate</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/realtors/stats-i-dont-need-no-stinking-stats/#comment-37783</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its not about proving people wrong. Its about separating fact from fiction.

Ever watch Mythbusters on TV? 

If you put forth a viewpoint on a public forum, why be afraid to have it tested? What&#039;s the worst thing that happens? In an intelligent debate the issue is the veracity of the topic r opinion. It isn&#039;t about the opinion holder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not about proving people wrong. Its about separating fact from fiction.</p>
<p>Ever watch Mythbusters on TV? </p>
<p>If you put forth a viewpoint on a public forum, why be afraid to have it tested? What&#8217;s the worst thing that happens? In an intelligent debate the issue is the veracity of the topic r opinion. It isn&#8217;t about the opinion holder.</p>
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		<title>By: Want Success? Offer People What They Want &#124; Bramblog</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/realtors/stats-i-dont-need-no-stinking-stats/#comment-37782</link>
		<dc:creator>Want Success? Offer People What They Want &#124; Bramblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 16:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Russell Shaw pointed out, it turned into a near religious argument (Bob Wilson summarized well in a comment, as well.)  But [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Russell Shaw pointed out, it turned into a near religious argument (Bob Wilson summarized well in a comment, as well.)  But [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Johnson County KS Real Estate</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/realtors/stats-i-dont-need-no-stinking-stats/#comment-37762</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson County KS Real Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its nice to see that you have evolved from trying to prove others wrong. Obviously people have different viewpoints, and I don&#039;t think it is anyone&#039;s right or responsibility to shake them from that viewpoints. If they are wrong, sometimes its ok to let them live in their ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its nice to see that you have evolved from trying to prove others wrong. Obviously people have different viewpoints, and I don&#8217;t think it is anyone&#8217;s right or responsibility to shake them from that viewpoints. If they are wrong, sometimes its ok to let them live in their ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Whatley</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/realtors/stats-i-dont-need-no-stinking-stats/#comment-37761</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Whatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 22:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a pretty good keyword search tool on my site. I all way invite everyone to use it. I believe if I offer a better site it just makes me look better. People are mostly made of water and water follow the path of least resistance.

The more people that use it the more I become in Google&#039;s eyes the place to go. People follow people. 

Real estate is a number game.

In Florida, You are considered a VOW Virtuail Office web site. Thus you have to follow a bunch more rules. 

I want to be the pretty girl in the bar that everyone want to meet. 

You have to give them something to know you are interested in meeting them.

plus I think Russell is the man. Have not meet him but have traded email. Great guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a pretty good keyword search tool on my site. I all way invite everyone to use it. I believe if I offer a better site it just makes me look better. People are mostly made of water and water follow the path of least resistance.</p>
<p>The more people that use it the more I become in Google&#8217;s eyes the place to go. People follow people. </p>
<p>Real estate is a number game.</p>
<p>In Florida, You are considered a VOW Virtuail Office web site. Thus you have to follow a bunch more rules. </p>
<p>I want to be the pretty girl in the bar that everyone want to meet. </p>
<p>You have to give them something to know you are interested in meeting them.</p>
<p>plus I think Russell is the man. Have not meet him but have traded email. Great guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/realtors/stats-i-dont-need-no-stinking-stats/#comment-37736</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 18:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the problems I see with online debate is the lack of willingness to be proven wrong. Of course I think my opinion is right. Who in the world forms an opinion they believe to be wrong? But what&#039;s worse - to be proven wrong, or continue to be wrong?

My favorite subjects in school were history, logic, and speech, which included argumentation or debate. The key to debate, and it isnt always obvious when in action, is the purpose. Are you seeking to find the truth, or to win the argument for the sake of winning? The latter is eristic, from the ancient Greek word Eris meaning to wrangle or strife.

This is what we find prevalent through that thread and many other online discussions. For many of the participants, there isnt a reasonable goal of factual discovery, but merely to win the argument. This eristic dialogue is more frequently found in court, where a lawyer needs to persuade regardless of the facts. Same thing we see in politics. However, without the skillset of a Reagan, Clinton or Obama, it usually degenerates into arguing for the sake of conflict. There is no persuasion, winner or resolution.

With Plato, public debate frequently ended up with reaching some common ground on issues that weren&#039;t based on reason or logic, such as political views. In other areas, it resulted in scientific proofs as myths and theories were factually proved or disproved.

Eric, I applaud you for taking a chance on this. Unfortunately, many people dont want proof. They dont want to do a/b testing. They believe what they believe and to be proven wrong is failure that is taken personally, not success.

Success? Yes, success. If my opinion is factually incorrect and you can show me why, I am better for it. That is success. The key is to not be married to the opinion, but to the goal of seeking the truth. 

Or more leads. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the problems I see with online debate is the lack of willingness to be proven wrong. Of course I think my opinion is right. Who in the world forms an opinion they believe to be wrong? But what&#8217;s worse &#8211; to be proven wrong, or continue to be wrong?</p>
<p>My favorite subjects in school were history, logic, and speech, which included argumentation or debate. The key to debate, and it isnt always obvious when in action, is the purpose. Are you seeking to find the truth, or to win the argument for the sake of winning? The latter is eristic, from the ancient Greek word Eris meaning to wrangle or strife.</p>
<p>This is what we find prevalent through that thread and many other online discussions. For many of the participants, there isnt a reasonable goal of factual discovery, but merely to win the argument. This eristic dialogue is more frequently found in court, where a lawyer needs to persuade regardless of the facts. Same thing we see in politics. However, without the skillset of a Reagan, Clinton or Obama, it usually degenerates into arguing for the sake of conflict. There is no persuasion, winner or resolution.</p>
<p>With Plato, public debate frequently ended up with reaching some common ground on issues that weren&#8217;t based on reason or logic, such as political views. In other areas, it resulted in scientific proofs as myths and theories were factually proved or disproved.</p>
<p>Eric, I applaud you for taking a chance on this. Unfortunately, many people dont want proof. They dont want to do a/b testing. They believe what they believe and to be proven wrong is failure that is taken personally, not success.</p>
<p>Success? Yes, success. If my opinion is factually incorrect and you can show me why, I am better for it. That is success. The key is to not be married to the opinion, but to the goal of seeking the truth. </p>
<p>Or more leads. <img src='http://agbeat.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ken Brand</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/realtors/stats-i-dont-need-no-stinking-stats/#comment-37719</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Brand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Human nature amplified by the ability to comment (throw-down) from a remote and safe location (I&#039;m sitting on a white leather couch, bare feet propped up on the coffee table watching CNBC) generally leads to a spectacle and for some, behavior that would never happen if they were sitting across a table from a real person.  Funny, sad, interesting, expected and revealing.

Also, different websites have different cultures, sorta like Vulcans, Humans, Klingons, etc.  Some places are sorta like the Fight Club.  Anyway, knowing that going in, I learn some and I arrive with entertainment in mind.  I like MMA too.

As sales people, we are lots of thing, hopefully we are professional communicators, presenters and problem solvers - it seem&#039;s we need these skills to create sustainable success.  Plus our clients rely on us to &quot;cool out&quot; emotional issues.  I wonder if the most aggressive, socially awkward and insecure commenters are also less successful in creating sustainable success?

And lastly, unless it&#039;s a friend, if someone wants to bust a cap in their own ass, I&#039;ll hand them a fist full of bullets. It&#039;s easier to look like a diamond when you&#039;re standing next to dirt clods.

Cheers - Nice post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Human nature amplified by the ability to comment (throw-down) from a remote and safe location (I&#8217;m sitting on a white leather couch, bare feet propped up on the coffee table watching CNBC) generally leads to a spectacle and for some, behavior that would never happen if they were sitting across a table from a real person.  Funny, sad, interesting, expected and revealing.</p>
<p>Also, different websites have different cultures, sorta like Vulcans, Humans, Klingons, etc.  Some places are sorta like the Fight Club.  Anyway, knowing that going in, I learn some and I arrive with entertainment in mind.  I like MMA too.</p>
<p>As sales people, we are lots of thing, hopefully we are professional communicators, presenters and problem solvers &#8211; it seem&#8217;s we need these skills to create sustainable success.  Plus our clients rely on us to &#8220;cool out&#8221; emotional issues.  I wonder if the most aggressive, socially awkward and insecure commenters are also less successful in creating sustainable success?</p>
<p>And lastly, unless it&#8217;s a friend, if someone wants to bust a cap in their own ass, I&#8217;ll hand them a fist full of bullets. It&#8217;s easier to look like a diamond when you&#8217;re standing next to dirt clods.</p>
<p>Cheers &#8211; Nice post.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Loomer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Loomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The featured speaker at the Keller Williams Family Reunion in Orlando last February was Clint Swindall - a very funny and very motivational man. 

One thing he stated struck me to the core:

&quot;If you always have to be right, then someone always have to be wrong.  If you&#039;re always right and they&#039;re always wrong, sooner or you are going to turn that person into a LOSER.&quot;

At the risk of going waaaay off course here and injecting too much of my personal life into this argument - that statement alone made me change my parenting approach to allow my children to make more decisions for themselves. 

Navy Chief, Navy Pride</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The featured speaker at the Keller Williams Family Reunion in Orlando last February was Clint Swindall &#8211; a very funny and very motivational man. </p>
<p>One thing he stated struck me to the core:</p>
<p>&#8220;If you always have to be right, then someone always have to be wrong.  If you&#8217;re always right and they&#8217;re always wrong, sooner or you are going to turn that person into a LOSER.&#8221;</p>
<p>At the risk of going waaaay off course here and injecting too much of my personal life into this argument &#8211; that statement alone made me change my parenting approach to allow my children to make more decisions for themselves. </p>
<p>Navy Chief, Navy Pride</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Ward</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/realtors/stats-i-dont-need-no-stinking-stats/#comment-37707</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I find most disturbing about the post is not what was written, but, what was not said by those who read but do not post. What must they think? Perhaps if we had them register to view comments we could contact them and ask :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find most disturbing about the post is not what was written, but, what was not said by those who read but do not post. What must they think? Perhaps if we had them register to view comments we could contact them and ask <img src='http://agbeat.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kye_Grace</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/realtors/stats-i-dont-need-no-stinking-stats/#comment-59076</link>
		<dc:creator>Kye_Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 22:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;&quot;the goal ceases to be about discovery and becomes a contest in making the other person wrong&quot; &amp; sadly ur learning stops http://ow.ly/lvTi&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">&quot;the goal ceases to be about discovery and becomes a contest in making the other person wrong&quot; &amp; sadly ur learning stops http://ow.ly/lvTi</span></span></span></p>
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