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		<title>By: Eric Blackwell</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/is-not-more-expected-of-us/#comment-12840</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Blackwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 03:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Holly -- there is a blog built specifically for that! Athol Kays blog has the bad REALTOR photo of the day...and he offers tips on how to correct it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Holly &#8212; there is a blog built specifically for that! Athol Kays blog has the bad REALTOR photo of the day&#8230;and he offers tips on how to correct it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Holly White</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/is-not-more-expected-of-us/#comment-12812</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s easy to make typos. There are several in this post and stream of comments actually.  The important thing is to fix them (where possible).  With our MLS (and I&#039;m sure ours isn&#039;t the only one) we can change anything about the listing we want to at any given time.  What&#039;s awful is when agents are made aware of their typos and still do not fix them.  That&#039;s a complete lack of professionalism is my opinion.

We have seen so many really awful photos in listings that it&#039;s become sort of a past time for us.  A few days ago we saw a photo taken by an agent where someone was caught in the photo trying to get out of the camera&#039;s view. Did the agent not realize they had a review button on their camera so that they could within 2 seconds take another photo WITHOUT someone in it? Apparently not, because they used it in the MLS listing and marketing materials!!  That was the last straw.  We have now decided to start a &quot;Stupid Realtor Photo of The Week&quot; blog. :)  This is going to be fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s easy to make typos. There are several in this post and stream of comments actually.  The important thing is to fix them (where possible).  With our MLS (and I&#8217;m sure ours isn&#8217;t the only one) we can change anything about the listing we want to at any given time.  What&#8217;s awful is when agents are made aware of their typos and still do not fix them.  That&#8217;s a complete lack of professionalism is my opinion.</p>
<p>We have seen so many really awful photos in listings that it&#8217;s become sort of a past time for us.  A few days ago we saw a photo taken by an agent where someone was caught in the photo trying to get out of the camera&#8217;s view. Did the agent not realize they had a review button on their camera so that they could within 2 seconds take another photo WITHOUT someone in it? Apparently not, because they used it in the MLS listing and marketing materials!!  That was the last straw.  We have now decided to start a &#8220;Stupid Realtor Photo of The Week&#8221; blog. <img src='http://agbeat.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   This is going to be fun!</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Smith</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/is-not-more-expected-of-us/#comment-12700</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Matt - &quot;Sits&quot; Nice find.

@ Danilo - &lt;i&gt;&quot;I don’t see many lawyers or doctors making typos or not knowing the basics of their jobs…&quot;&lt;/i&gt; In that case you don&#039;t deal with enough lawyers (no experience with doctors so I won&#039;t comment there). Lawyers spell things incorrectly everyday and I have dealt with more then a few that don&#039;t know the basics of the law they are practicing. We have attorneys on every transaction so I have had the pleasure to deal with hundreds of them and some just shouldn&#039;t be allowed to practice law.

Even with that said I feel the barrier to entry into this business is WAY to easy. For a few hundred dollars and a self study course (for agent or broker), you can then go take a state test that only requires a 70% grade to pass. In IL a brand new agent that has never seen a contract can open their own office and start managing other agents (even worse then being able to sell).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Matt &#8211; &#8220;Sits&#8221; Nice find.</p>
<p>@ Danilo &#8211; <i>&#8220;I don’t see many lawyers or doctors making typos or not knowing the basics of their jobs…&#8221;</i> In that case you don&#8217;t deal with enough lawyers (no experience with doctors so I won&#8217;t comment there). Lawyers spell things incorrectly everyday and I have dealt with more then a few that don&#8217;t know the basics of the law they are practicing. We have attorneys on every transaction so I have had the pleasure to deal with hundreds of them and some just shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to practice law.</p>
<p>Even with that said I feel the barrier to entry into this business is WAY to easy. For a few hundred dollars and a self study course (for agent or broker), you can then go take a state test that only requires a 70% grade to pass. In IL a brand new agent that has never seen a contract can open their own office and start managing other agents (even worse then being able to sell).</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Lublin</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/is-not-more-expected-of-us/#comment-12698</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Lublin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danilo - Interesting post, but as Jonathan points out and you acknowledge later, Minimum Standards doesn&#039;t work well in an entrepenuerial business. 

All each of us can do is work on our own skills. When we manage or own an office, we can work on our own skills and the skills of thise people that work with us (but even then, we can&#039;t be with each of them every minute of every day - Look for a future post on &quot;Stupid Agent Tricks) and if we own a larger company, we can work on our skills, and the ckills of our managers, and our agents, but the larger and more effective an organization, the greater the difficulty in micro-managing. 

As far as there being something beyond the COE from NAR, there is also Pathways to Professionalism, which actually does talk about business etiquette, and how to handle returned calls, showings, etc.

Me, I just want to be proud of my work product - whatever it is ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danilo &#8211; Interesting post, but as Jonathan points out and you acknowledge later, Minimum Standards doesn&#8217;t work well in an entrepenuerial business. </p>
<p>All each of us can do is work on our own skills. When we manage or own an office, we can work on our own skills and the skills of thise people that work with us (but even then, we can&#8217;t be with each of them every minute of every day &#8211; Look for a future post on &#8220;Stupid Agent Tricks) and if we own a larger company, we can work on our skills, and the ckills of our managers, and our agents, but the larger and more effective an organization, the greater the difficulty in micro-managing. </p>
<p>As far as there being something beyond the COE from NAR, there is also Pathways to Professionalism, which actually does talk about business etiquette, and how to handle returned calls, showings, etc.</p>
<p>Me, I just want to be proud of my work product &#8211; whatever it is <img src='http://agbeat.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Danilo Bogdanovic</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/is-not-more-expected-of-us/#comment-12697</link>
		<dc:creator>Danilo Bogdanovic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good pull Matt! Though you may just have painted a target on your forehead...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good pull Matt! Though you may just have painted a target on your forehead&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Stigliano</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/is-not-more-expected-of-us/#comment-12696</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Stigliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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Sits?

I had to do it, I just had to.  Now I&#039;ll never be able to spell something wrong on this site.  Me and my big mouth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the G-approved box in the right hand column&#8230;<br />
dsSearchAgent is a fantastic Web 2.0 IDX Solution for Agent &amp; Broker Sits alike!</p>
<p>Sits?</p>
<p>I had to do it, I just had to.  Now I&#8217;ll never be able to spell something wrong on this site.  Me and my big mouth.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Stigliano</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/is-not-more-expected-of-us/#comment-12691</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Stigliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg - I have to agree about &quot;minimum standards in an agent&#039;s abilities.&quot;  I left school and felt ready to take on the world, but then looked at a real contract with an agent in the office and had 10 million questions that I hadn&#039;t learned the answers to in school.  It took me awhile to get my head around the real world of real estate and I&#039;m still learning.  I do think its rather easy to get licensed (in the state of Texas), but luckily, the time commitment and money commitment keep some people away that might otherwise flood the state with licensed agents without a clue.  Of course, I also am a big fan of hands on learning.  I can read a book, take a few tests, do a few sample contracts, etc., but that in no way compares to a real life situation.  Even if I did this for months and years and got a degree in it, it still wouldn&#039;t compare to the real thing in my opinion.  Sure, this can cause a dangerous situation, where an agent might not be doing things correctly, but a GOOD new agent will know to ask a few questions to fellow agents or their broker (who should be available to them) before putting their foot in their mouth, their clients in harm&#039;s way, and their license at risk.  Maybe we as agents should demand more from the brokers?  I like my broker, so this is not from personal experience, but I know a lot of brokers take the &quot;throw it at the wall and see what sticks&quot; approach to recruiting.  They knowingly pick 10 agents hoping that 1 will be good.  (Of course, I am not speaking of all brokers and my numbers are random numbers for the purpose of illustration only.)  Sorry, I feel like I&#039;m rambling a bit.  My coffee has yet to set in this morning.

Danilo - While I haven&#039;t heard a broker say to not report someone, after reading that and thinking about it, I think I would have to walk away from a broker if I heard that.  My business needs to be based on reliability and trust, but I don&#039;t want to base it on fear of &quot;bad blood&quot; or &quot;no agent in town will like me.&quot;  I&#039;m here for the client not for the other agents.  I want to like and be liked by other agents, but its not the only or highest goal I have.  After seeing some of the social aspect of real estate (the various lunches, grand openings, etc.), I think some agents do put that social aspect high on their priority list.  I, however, am a firm believer that those same people that are in it for the wrong reasons will be gone tomorrow (hence the high drop out rates for Realtors).

Ken - Wouldn&#039;t you know I drove by the place this morning and the sign is gone?  I guess what ever was &quot;comming&quot; already &quot;camme.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg &#8211; I have to agree about &#8220;minimum standards in an agent&#8217;s abilities.&#8221;  I left school and felt ready to take on the world, but then looked at a real contract with an agent in the office and had 10 million questions that I hadn&#8217;t learned the answers to in school.  It took me awhile to get my head around the real world of real estate and I&#8217;m still learning.  I do think its rather easy to get licensed (in the state of Texas), but luckily, the time commitment and money commitment keep some people away that might otherwise flood the state with licensed agents without a clue.  Of course, I also am a big fan of hands on learning.  I can read a book, take a few tests, do a few sample contracts, etc., but that in no way compares to a real life situation.  Even if I did this for months and years and got a degree in it, it still wouldn&#8217;t compare to the real thing in my opinion.  Sure, this can cause a dangerous situation, where an agent might not be doing things correctly, but a GOOD new agent will know to ask a few questions to fellow agents or their broker (who should be available to them) before putting their foot in their mouth, their clients in harm&#8217;s way, and their license at risk.  Maybe we as agents should demand more from the brokers?  I like my broker, so this is not from personal experience, but I know a lot of brokers take the &#8220;throw it at the wall and see what sticks&#8221; approach to recruiting.  They knowingly pick 10 agents hoping that 1 will be good.  (Of course, I am not speaking of all brokers and my numbers are random numbers for the purpose of illustration only.)  Sorry, I feel like I&#8217;m rambling a bit.  My coffee has yet to set in this morning.</p>
<p>Danilo &#8211; While I haven&#8217;t heard a broker say to not report someone, after reading that and thinking about it, I think I would have to walk away from a broker if I heard that.  My business needs to be based on reliability and trust, but I don&#8217;t want to base it on fear of &#8220;bad blood&#8221; or &#8220;no agent in town will like me.&#8221;  I&#8217;m here for the client not for the other agents.  I want to like and be liked by other agents, but its not the only or highest goal I have.  After seeing some of the social aspect of real estate (the various lunches, grand openings, etc.), I think some agents do put that social aspect high on their priority list.  I, however, am a firm believer that those same people that are in it for the wrong reasons will be gone tomorrow (hence the high drop out rates for Realtors).</p>
<p>Ken &#8211; Wouldn&#8217;t you know I drove by the place this morning and the sign is gone?  I guess what ever was &#8220;comming&#8221; already &#8220;camme.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Paula Henry</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/is-not-more-expected-of-us/#comment-12690</link>
		<dc:creator>Paula Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danilo - The sad truth is, I&#039;m not sure the consumer knows what they should expect. They believe we are all the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danilo &#8211; The sad truth is, I&#8217;m not sure the consumer knows what they should expect. They believe we are all the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Mack in Atlanta</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/is-not-more-expected-of-us/#comment-12686</link>
		<dc:creator>Mack in Atlanta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure spelling, directions and pictures are important, but being better educated with how to price a home would be a more important factor. The other thing that really bothers me is the agent that lists a home as 4 bedrooms when it actually only has 3. That little storage area without a closet is NOT a bedroom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure spelling, directions and pictures are important, but being better educated with how to price a home would be a more important factor. The other thing that really bothers me is the agent that lists a home as 4 bedrooms when it actually only has 3. That little storage area without a closet is NOT a bedroom.</p>
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		<title>By: Danilo Bogdanovic</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/is-not-more-expected-of-us/#comment-12685</link>
		<dc:creator>Danilo Bogdanovic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn - I agree. But the problem is that brokerages firms are built on the business model of quantity, not quality. 

I&#039;ve actually heard (from credible sources) of brokers telling an agent NOT to report another agent on blatant CoE and Fair Housing violations because it would create &quot;bad blood&quot; between the brokers. That&#039;s sad...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn &#8211; I agree. But the problem is that brokerages firms are built on the business model of quantity, not quality. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve actually heard (from credible sources) of brokers telling an agent NOT to report another agent on blatant CoE and Fair Housing violations because it would create &#8220;bad blood&#8221; between the brokers. That&#8217;s sad&#8230;</p>
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