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		<title>By: Daytona Beach Real Estate</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-22047</link>
		<dc:creator>Daytona Beach Real Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree more! Real estate right now is definitely a hurting market, but it doesn&#039;t mean that the services quality real estate agents provide are not worth commission or that just because times are hard, the work we do is any less valuable. Florida real estate is hurting, but there are still markets where real estate agents can flourish. High end luxury market, etc. Good luck to you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more! Real estate right now is definitely a hurting market, but it doesn&#8217;t mean that the services quality real estate agents provide are not worth commission or that just because times are hard, the work we do is any less valuable. Florida real estate is hurting, but there are still markets where real estate agents can flourish. High end luxury market, etc. Good luck to you!</p>
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		<title>By: ines</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-16766</link>
		<dc:creator>ines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CMR - you bring excellent points to this discussion and I thank you for leaving a comment.   As you well know, every Realtor will treat their business differently and will have good explanations why they can or cannot cut their commission (keep in mind that a lot of the big brokerages don&#039;t allow for agents to cut them, so a lot of times it is not even up to them).

The reality of today&#039;s real estate market is that we, as agents, need to be flexible and need to adapt to change.   As a seller, you need to make sure that your property is exposed as much as possible and that usually means money out of the agent&#039;s pocket which they will not get back until the property closes.  

You also need to be aware that finding the buyer is probably the easiest part of selling a home - the actual transaction management - making sure that buyer follows deadlines (inspections, loan commitments, etc) is of utmost importance. And keeping a deal alive in today&#039;s market may be challenging.

I was having this conversation with a colleague in Miami yesterday where we discussed how sometimes dealing with a cooperating agent that is inefficient and inept is more work than doing both sides of the transaction alone.  

You, as a seller have every right to pick was services you are looking for - but make sure you compare apples to apples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CMR &#8211; you bring excellent points to this discussion and I thank you for leaving a comment.   As you well know, every Realtor will treat their business differently and will have good explanations why they can or cannot cut their commission (keep in mind that a lot of the big brokerages don&#8217;t allow for agents to cut them, so a lot of times it is not even up to them).</p>
<p>The reality of today&#8217;s real estate market is that we, as agents, need to be flexible and need to adapt to change.   As a seller, you need to make sure that your property is exposed as much as possible and that usually means money out of the agent&#8217;s pocket which they will not get back until the property closes.  </p>
<p>You also need to be aware that finding the buyer is probably the easiest part of selling a home &#8211; the actual transaction management &#8211; making sure that buyer follows deadlines (inspections, loan commitments, etc) is of utmost importance. And keeping a deal alive in today&#8217;s market may be challenging.</p>
<p>I was having this conversation with a colleague in Miami yesterday where we discussed how sometimes dealing with a cooperating agent that is inefficient and inept is more work than doing both sides of the transaction alone.  </p>
<p>You, as a seller have every right to pick was services you are looking for &#8211; but make sure you compare apples to apples.</p>
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		<title>By: CMR</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-16756</link>
		<dc:creator>CMR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Background: 
I am in executive search;
selling for the first time in years.

You are correct: I’ve already heard several times agents 
will cut their commissions, what I couldn’t figure out was why?
What&#039;s the incentive?   

I would like to understand the communication gap, however, 
because it’s huge, and hurts everyone in the process: 
?	is it that sellers don’t want to pay the 6%, period? 
?	?a current survey by Consumer Reports
 states a high number of agents are adjusting commission, without an impact on service. 

In my business, recession requires vast amts. of time spent to educate people,
and &quot;with so many candidates to choose from”, (part of the same perception), 
why shouldn’t we cut the commission?&quot;

When I sign on with an Agent I realize the expertise is there. 
If I network and bring in a buyer, however, am I entitled to the other 3%? 
Now that would be fun! More importantly, not 
to cheat my Agent, but to acknowledge my time bringing in a buyer…if
that were to happen! 

There may be creative ideas that are worth consideration 
on occasion. I want repeat business too, but I’m looking for possibilities here, and always respect a professional. I sincerely look forward to comments, thanks. 

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/money/real-estate,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Background:<br />
I am in executive search;<br />
selling for the first time in years.</p>
<p>You are correct: I’ve already heard several times agents<br />
will cut their commissions, what I couldn’t figure out was why?<br />
What&#8217;s the incentive?   </p>
<p>I would like to understand the communication gap, however,<br />
because it’s huge, and hurts everyone in the process:<br />
?	is it that sellers don’t want to pay the 6%, period?<br />
?	?a current survey by Consumer Reports<br />
 states a high number of agents are adjusting commission, without an impact on service. </p>
<p>In my business, recession requires vast amts. of time spent to educate people,<br />
and &#8220;with so many candidates to choose from”, (part of the same perception),<br />
why shouldn’t we cut the commission?&#8221;</p>
<p>When I sign on with an Agent I realize the expertise is there.<br />
If I network and bring in a buyer, however, am I entitled to the other 3%?<br />
Now that would be fun! More importantly, not<br />
to cheat my Agent, but to acknowledge my time bringing in a buyer…if<br />
that were to happen! </p>
<p>There may be creative ideas that are worth consideration<br />
on occasion. I want repeat business too, but I’m looking for possibilities here, and always respect a professional. I sincerely look forward to comments, thanks. </p>
<p>http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/money/real-estate,</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-7833</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 21:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t cut my commission.  This is a market in which we are definitely earning our commission.  I usually defer discussing commission until I am done with my listing presentation.  By time I&#039;m done there is little argument.  They want all the services that I offer to highlight their home and bring in the best buyer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t cut my commission.  This is a market in which we are definitely earning our commission.  I usually defer discussing commission until I am done with my listing presentation.  By time I&#8217;m done there is little argument.  They want all the services that I offer to highlight their home and bring in the best buyer.</p>
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		<title>By: Monday Links 03-24-2008 &#124; Real Central VA</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-6511</link>
		<dc:creator>Monday Links 03-24-2008 &#124; Real Central VA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Commission Justification - all Realtors should be able to justify their fees. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ines</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-6469</link>
		<dc:creator>Ines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 14:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wade- THAT&#039;s what I&#039;m talking about!  When you move into an area you know nothing about, it&#039;s crucial to work w/ an agent that knows the area, the other agents, the inventory, and understands your needs.  I love to hear good success stories and congratulate you for recognizing the effort.  

Ann- there are some people out there that will never hire a Realtor (and that&#039;s ok).  I compare those people to the ones that would never hire an architect and let their contractor do the designing.  When all is done and the project is horrible, they realize that they shouldn&#039;t have cut such an important step....but it was still their CHOICE

Blue ridge rentals- I think the whole argument started about some transactions taking a lot less time than others and how you can justify the difference in pay.

Moni- I think you have an extremely interesting concept- and like I said before, if only as an exercise, I will take the challenge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wade- THAT&#8217;s what I&#8217;m talking about!  When you move into an area you know nothing about, it&#8217;s crucial to work w/ an agent that knows the area, the other agents, the inventory, and understands your needs.  I love to hear good success stories and congratulate you for recognizing the effort.  </p>
<p>Ann- there are some people out there that will never hire a Realtor (and that&#8217;s ok).  I compare those people to the ones that would never hire an architect and let their contractor do the designing.  When all is done and the project is horrible, they realize that they shouldn&#8217;t have cut such an important step&#8230;.but it was still their CHOICE</p>
<p>Blue ridge rentals- I think the whole argument started about some transactions taking a lot less time than others and how you can justify the difference in pay.</p>
<p>Moni- I think you have an extremely interesting concept- and like I said before, if only as an exercise, I will take the challenge.</p>
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		<title>By: monika</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-6466</link>
		<dc:creator>monika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 13:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree nearly one hundred percent with Ann except the dollarization part. 

I think especially if you are a new agent you must learn to do it. Is it line by line? No.  But in some basic categories you can and should know your value point. I know that for me, doing a CMA may take an average of 4 hours and that is before I even do the presentation and get the listing.  I also know what my out of pocket expense is to do that CMA. 

I know what my experience is worth. So what would I charge to do CMA…is it as detailed as an appraisal?  Yes and do I charge more?  Yes I do.  Why?... because of my knowledge of the area, my working knowledge of what buyers are looking for. My years and years of experience… all add up. Can I break my experience down to a dollar value per hour…probably not.  My resume speaks for itself.

Same thing when I&#039;m a buyer agent. I know what I charge and what I do and can clearly articulate to the buyer why they should hire me.

Like Ann, most of my business is repeat and referrals and that says a lot. But new agents in my opinion need to be able to dollarize what they do. ..the hard part for them is the experience part.  They need to be able to say here is what I do and here is why it benefits you…the “why it benefits you” is the value piece the consumer cares about.  

How much am I worth and why that benefits my clients… I need to demonstrate that.  
I would never push myself onto someone who does not value my expertise …saying “next” works for me.
I’m far from rich and I remember once years ago I tracked a listing and in the end I made 16 cents per/hour. Yuck!    I said never again.  There is so much of what we do that can’t be wrapped in a pretty package…we just do it and know how to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree nearly one hundred percent with Ann except the dollarization part. </p>
<p>I think especially if you are a new agent you must learn to do it. Is it line by line? No.  But in some basic categories you can and should know your value point. I know that for me, doing a CMA may take an average of 4 hours and that is before I even do the presentation and get the listing.  I also know what my out of pocket expense is to do that CMA. </p>
<p>I know what my experience is worth. So what would I charge to do CMA…is it as detailed as an appraisal?  Yes and do I charge more?  Yes I do.  Why?&#8230; because of my knowledge of the area, my working knowledge of what buyers are looking for. My years and years of experience… all add up. Can I break my experience down to a dollar value per hour…probably not.  My resume speaks for itself.</p>
<p>Same thing when I&#8217;m a buyer agent. I know what I charge and what I do and can clearly articulate to the buyer why they should hire me.</p>
<p>Like Ann, most of my business is repeat and referrals and that says a lot. But new agents in my opinion need to be able to dollarize what they do. ..the hard part for them is the experience part.  They need to be able to say here is what I do and here is why it benefits you…the “why it benefits you” is the value piece the consumer cares about.  </p>
<p>How much am I worth and why that benefits my clients… I need to demonstrate that.<br />
I would never push myself onto someone who does not value my expertise …saying “next” works for me.<br />
I’m far from rich and I remember once years ago I tracked a listing and in the end I made 16 cents per/hour. Yuck!    I said never again.  There is so much of what we do that can’t be wrapped in a pretty package…we just do it and know how to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Ridge Cabin Rentals</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-6458</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Ridge Cabin Rentals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 11:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People use a realtor for a service and are charged for the service.  The breakdown of what all is included is not necessary it is understood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People use a realtor for a service and are charged for the service.  The breakdown of what all is included is not necessary it is understood.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Cummings</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-6457</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Cummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 11:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wade Young wrote: &quot;There really are some real estate agents who know an area, and you can’t get what is in their head online, in pictures or descriptions. The good agents are worth full commission and should not compromise.&quot;

Wade, that speaks volumes to those of us who bring to the table exactly what that agent did who found you that house that you would never have considered otherwise.  Hooray for you and double hooray for her!

My professional fees are between me and my clients, and I never DEFEND my fees.  I DEMONSTRATE my skills, my experience and expertise, my abilities and everything else I bring to the table for each of my clients.  Most of my business is repeat clients and word-of-mouth referrals, and that speaks volumes as to my abilities.

For all we are and all we do and all we bring to the table, I see absolutely no way and no reason to &#039;dollarize&#039; that.  How do you &#039;dollarize&#039; all the education and networking we do to stay on top of our game, to stay ahead of the majority of agents in our given areas?  Sure, you can &#039;dollarize&#039; some marketing and advertising, and you can &#039;dollarize&#039; the physical hours put into each client, but what about what&#039;s in our heads, as Wade put it?  What about the mental and emotional hours put into clients? No way on earth to &#039;dollarize&#039; that!

And as for trying to answer most of those who left comments on that post on AR, I firmly believe that it wouldn&#039;t matter one iota to those people what any of us would write there as their sole purpose is to bash each of us and rip our profession apart.  That&#039;s very clear when you look at the website they all are part of.  My time and my energies are better spent with those who really do appreciate what I stand for, and it&#039;s also better spent learning even more ways to bring even more value to my clients by reading and networking online.  

Healthy realistic discussions are great and are also educational - nasty ones have nothing to be gained from them and are total time-wasters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wade Young wrote: &#8220;There really are some real estate agents who know an area, and you can’t get what is in their head online, in pictures or descriptions. The good agents are worth full commission and should not compromise.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wade, that speaks volumes to those of us who bring to the table exactly what that agent did who found you that house that you would never have considered otherwise.  Hooray for you and double hooray for her!</p>
<p>My professional fees are between me and my clients, and I never DEFEND my fees.  I DEMONSTRATE my skills, my experience and expertise, my abilities and everything else I bring to the table for each of my clients.  Most of my business is repeat clients and word-of-mouth referrals, and that speaks volumes as to my abilities.</p>
<p>For all we are and all we do and all we bring to the table, I see absolutely no way and no reason to &#8216;dollarize&#8217; that.  How do you &#8216;dollarize&#8217; all the education and networking we do to stay on top of our game, to stay ahead of the majority of agents in our given areas?  Sure, you can &#8216;dollarize&#8217; some marketing and advertising, and you can &#8216;dollarize&#8217; the physical hours put into each client, but what about what&#8217;s in our heads, as Wade put it?  What about the mental and emotional hours put into clients? No way on earth to &#8216;dollarize&#8217; that!</p>
<p>And as for trying to answer most of those who left comments on that post on AR, I firmly believe that it wouldn&#8217;t matter one iota to those people what any of us would write there as their sole purpose is to bash each of us and rip our profession apart.  That&#8217;s very clear when you look at the website they all are part of.  My time and my energies are better spent with those who really do appreciate what I stand for, and it&#8217;s also better spent learning even more ways to bring even more value to my clients by reading and networking online.  </p>
<p>Healthy realistic discussions are great and are also educational &#8211; nasty ones have nothing to be gained from them and are total time-wasters.</p>
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		<title>By: Wade Young</title>
		<link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-6455</link>
		<dc:creator>Wade Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 02:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mariana-- Good article, and I will throw in my experience for reference. I bought a house, and at the time, I didn&#039;t think much of realtors. I found them to be worthless, not worth the commissions they received. My wife did most of the house hunting, as is usual with most married couples. Unfortunately, she couldn&#039;t find anything that fit her tastes, and we HAD to have a house. My wife sent an email detailing the current house that we lived in, and she wanted something similar. We arrived by plane, and the realtor showed my wife the print outs of what she had to for us to look at. The house on the top of the stack -- well, it was the realtor&#039;s best -- and my wife immediately said that she refused to even look at it. The reason my wife didn&#039;t want to look at it? Well, the garage was attached, and that is something that my wife just wouldn&#039;t accept. Garages belong in the back, you know ... circa 1929 ... garages should know their place. How dare they be up with the rest of the house! Also, my wife was only interested in 1932 or before. The only thing the realtor had to show us was a brand new house with the garage in the front, but she begged my wife to at least look at the house, promising she would be interested. My wife relented, and well ... we bought the house. We also wanted to look at houses in the $200 range, and the house we bought was $405. That&#039;s a balls out real estate lady. The point is that the house was not our dream house, but she knew we would be happy there. The houses were new houses made (sort of) to look like old houses. The neighborhood was great. My son was born there. I am happy to have lived there, but I am also happy to have moved on (in a high rise now). The point is -- that real estate agent was worth every single dollar. She knew my wife. She knew what my wife was willing to accept. She knew the area. She arm twisted my wife. She delivered. My wife had scoped everything online, and found nada. She earned her money. I have since changed my opinion on real estate agents. I could never have found that house online, and we spent 4 happy years there. There really are some real estate agents who know an area, and you can&#039;t get what is in their head online, in pictures or descriptions.  The good agents are worth full commission and should not compromise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mariana&#8211; Good article, and I will throw in my experience for reference. I bought a house, and at the time, I didn&#8217;t think much of realtors. I found them to be worthless, not worth the commissions they received. My wife did most of the house hunting, as is usual with most married couples. Unfortunately, she couldn&#8217;t find anything that fit her tastes, and we HAD to have a house. My wife sent an email detailing the current house that we lived in, and she wanted something similar. We arrived by plane, and the realtor showed my wife the print outs of what she had to for us to look at. The house on the top of the stack &#8212; well, it was the realtor&#8217;s best &#8212; and my wife immediately said that she refused to even look at it. The reason my wife didn&#8217;t want to look at it? Well, the garage was attached, and that is something that my wife just wouldn&#8217;t accept. Garages belong in the back, you know &#8230; circa 1929 &#8230; garages should know their place. How dare they be up with the rest of the house! Also, my wife was only interested in 1932 or before. The only thing the realtor had to show us was a brand new house with the garage in the front, but she begged my wife to at least look at the house, promising she would be interested. My wife relented, and well &#8230; we bought the house. We also wanted to look at houses in the $200 range, and the house we bought was $405. That&#8217;s a balls out real estate lady. The point is that the house was not our dream house, but she knew we would be happy there. The houses were new houses made (sort of) to look like old houses. The neighborhood was great. My son was born there. I am happy to have lived there, but I am also happy to have moved on (in a high rise now). The point is &#8212; that real estate agent was worth every single dollar. She knew my wife. She knew what my wife was willing to accept. She knew the area. She arm twisted my wife. She delivered. My wife had scoped everything online, and found nada. She earned her money. I have since changed my opinion on real estate agents. I could never have found that house online, and we spent 4 happy years there. There really are some real estate agents who know an area, and you can&#8217;t get what is in their head online, in pictures or descriptions.  The good agents are worth full commission and should not compromise.</p>
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