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> <channel><title>Comments on: Commission justification?</title> <atom:link href="http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/</link> <description>News, insights, tools, and inspiration for business owners and professionals</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 04:53:16 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Daytona Beach Real Estate</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-22047</link> <dc:creator>Daytona Beach Real Estate</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:18:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1486#comment-22047</guid> <description>I couldn&#039;t agree more! Real estate right now is definitely a hurting market, but it doesn&#039;t mean that the services quality real estate agents provide are not worth commission or that just because times are hard, the work we do is any less valuable. Florida real estate is hurting, but there are still markets where real estate agents can flourish. High end luxury market, etc. Good luck to you!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more! Real estate right now is definitely a hurting market, but it doesn&#8217;t mean that the services quality real estate agents provide are not worth commission or that just because times are hard, the work we do is any less valuable. Florida real estate is hurting, but there are still markets where real estate agents can flourish. High end luxury market, etc. Good luck to you!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ines</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-16766</link> <dc:creator>ines</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:28:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1486#comment-16766</guid> <description>CMR - you bring excellent points to this discussion and I thank you for leaving a comment.   As you well know, every Realtor will treat their business differently and will have good explanations why they can or cannot cut their commission (keep in mind that a lot of the big brokerages don&#039;t allow for agents to cut them, so a lot of times it is not even up to them).
The reality of today&#039;s real estate market is that we, as agents, need to be flexible and need to adapt to change.   As a seller, you need to make sure that your property is exposed as much as possible and that usually means money out of the agent&#039;s pocket which they will not get back until the property closes.
You also need to be aware that finding the buyer is probably the easiest part of selling a home - the actual transaction management - making sure that buyer follows deadlines (inspections, loan commitments, etc) is of utmost importance. And keeping a deal alive in today&#039;s market may be challenging.
I was having this conversation with a colleague in Miami yesterday where we discussed how sometimes dealing with a cooperating agent that is inefficient and inept is more work than doing both sides of the transaction alone.
You, as a seller have every right to pick was services you are looking for - but make sure you compare apples to apples.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CMR &#8211; you bring excellent points to this discussion and I thank you for leaving a comment.   As you well know, every Realtor will treat their business differently and will have good explanations why they can or cannot cut their commission (keep in mind that a lot of the big brokerages don&#8217;t allow for agents to cut them, so a lot of times it is not even up to them).</p><p>The reality of today&#8217;s real estate market is that we, as agents, need to be flexible and need to adapt to change.   As a seller, you need to make sure that your property is exposed as much as possible and that usually means money out of the agent&#8217;s pocket which they will not get back until the property closes.</p><p>You also need to be aware that finding the buyer is probably the easiest part of selling a home &#8211; the actual transaction management &#8211; making sure that buyer follows deadlines (inspections, loan commitments, etc) is of utmost importance. And keeping a deal alive in today&#8217;s market may be challenging.</p><p>I was having this conversation with a colleague in Miami yesterday where we discussed how sometimes dealing with a cooperating agent that is inefficient and inept is more work than doing both sides of the transaction alone.</p><p>You, as a seller have every right to pick was services you are looking for &#8211; but make sure you compare apples to apples.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: CMR</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-16756</link> <dc:creator>CMR</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:05:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1486#comment-16756</guid> <description>Background:
I am in executive search;
selling for the first time in years.
You are correct: I’ve already heard several times agents
will cut their commissions, what I couldn’t figure out was why?
What&#039;s the incentive?
I would like to understand the communication gap, however,
because it’s huge, and hurts everyone in the process:
?	is it that sellers don’t want to pay the 6%, period?
?	?a current survey by Consumer Reports
states a high number of agents are adjusting commission, without an impact on service.
In my business, recession requires vast amts. of time spent to educate people,
and &quot;with so many candidates to choose from”, (part of the same perception),
why shouldn’t we cut the commission?&quot;
When I sign on with an Agent I realize the expertise is there.
If I network and bring in a buyer, however, am I entitled to the other 3%?
Now that would be fun! More importantly, not
to cheat my Agent, but to acknowledge my time bringing in a buyer…if
that were to happen!
There may be creative ideas that are worth consideration
on occasion. I want repeat business too, but I’m looking for possibilities here, and always respect a professional. I sincerely look forward to comments, thanks.
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/money/real-estate,</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Background:<br
/> I am in executive search;<br
/> selling for the first time in years.</p><p>You are correct: I’ve already heard several times agents<br
/> will cut their commissions, what I couldn’t figure out was why?<br
/> What&#8217;s the incentive?</p><p>I would like to understand the communication gap, however,<br
/> because it’s huge, and hurts everyone in the process:<br
/> ?	is it that sellers don’t want to pay the 6%, period?<br
/> ?	?a current survey by Consumer Reports<br
/> states a high number of agents are adjusting commission, without an impact on service.</p><p>In my business, recession requires vast amts. of time spent to educate people,<br
/> and &#8220;with so many candidates to choose from”, (part of the same perception),<br
/> why shouldn’t we cut the commission?&#8221;</p><p>When I sign on with an Agent I realize the expertise is there.<br
/> If I network and bring in a buyer, however, am I entitled to the other 3%?<br
/> Now that would be fun! More importantly, not<br
/> to cheat my Agent, but to acknowledge my time bringing in a buyer…if<br
/> that were to happen!</p><p>There may be creative ideas that are worth consideration<br
/> on occasion. I want repeat business too, but I’m looking for possibilities here, and always respect a professional. I sincerely look forward to comments, thanks.</p><p>http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/money/real-estate,</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sue</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-7833</link> <dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 21:56:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1486#comment-7833</guid> <description>I don&#039;t cut my commission.  This is a market in which we are definitely earning our commission.  I usually defer discussing commission until I am done with my listing presentation.  By time I&#039;m done there is little argument.  They want all the services that I offer to highlight their home and bring in the best buyer.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t cut my commission.  This is a market in which we are definitely earning our commission.  I usually defer discussing commission until I am done with my listing presentation.  By time I&#8217;m done there is little argument.  They want all the services that I offer to highlight their home and bring in the best buyer.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Monday Links 03-24-2008 &#124; Real Central VA</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-6511</link> <dc:creator>Monday Links 03-24-2008 &#124; Real Central VA</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:51:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1486#comment-6511</guid> <description>[...] Commission Justification - all Realtors should be able to justify their fees. [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Commission Justification &#8211; all Realtors should be able to justify their fees. [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ines</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-6469</link> <dc:creator>Ines</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 14:08:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1486#comment-6469</guid> <description>Wade- THAT&#039;s what I&#039;m talking about!  When you move into an area you know nothing about, it&#039;s crucial to work w/ an agent that knows the area, the other agents, the inventory, and understands your needs.  I love to hear good success stories and congratulate you for recognizing the effort.
Ann- there are some people out there that will never hire a Realtor (and that&#039;s ok).  I compare those people to the ones that would never hire an architect and let their contractor do the designing.  When all is done and the project is horrible, they realize that they shouldn&#039;t have cut such an important step....but it was still their CHOICE
Blue ridge rentals- I think the whole argument started about some transactions taking a lot less time than others and how you can justify the difference in pay.
Moni- I think you have an extremely interesting concept- and like I said before, if only as an exercise, I will take the challenge.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wade- THAT&#8217;s what I&#8217;m talking about!  When you move into an area you know nothing about, it&#8217;s crucial to work w/ an agent that knows the area, the other agents, the inventory, and understands your needs.  I love to hear good success stories and congratulate you for recognizing the effort.</p><p>Ann- there are some people out there that will never hire a Realtor (and that&#8217;s ok).  I compare those people to the ones that would never hire an architect and let their contractor do the designing.  When all is done and the project is horrible, they realize that they shouldn&#8217;t have cut such an important step&#8230;.but it was still their CHOICE</p><p>Blue ridge rentals- I think the whole argument started about some transactions taking a lot less time than others and how you can justify the difference in pay.</p><p>Moni- I think you have an extremely interesting concept- and like I said before, if only as an exercise, I will take the challenge.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: monika</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-6466</link> <dc:creator>monika</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 13:41:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1486#comment-6466</guid> <description>I agree nearly one hundred percent with Ann except the dollarization part.
I think especially if you are a new agent you must learn to do it. Is it line by line? No.  But in some basic categories you can and should know your value point. I know that for me, doing a CMA may take an average of 4 hours and that is before I even do the presentation and get the listing.  I also know what my out of pocket expense is to do that CMA.
I know what my experience is worth. So what would I charge to do CMA…is it as detailed as an appraisal?  Yes and do I charge more?  Yes I do.  Why?... because of my knowledge of the area, my working knowledge of what buyers are looking for. My years and years of experience… all add up. Can I break my experience down to a dollar value per hour…probably not.  My resume speaks for itself.
Same thing when I&#039;m a buyer agent. I know what I charge and what I do and can clearly articulate to the buyer why they should hire me.
Like Ann, most of my business is repeat and referrals and that says a lot. But new agents in my opinion need to be able to dollarize what they do. ..the hard part for them is the experience part.  They need to be able to say here is what I do and here is why it benefits you…the “why it benefits you” is the value piece the consumer cares about.
How much am I worth and why that benefits my clients… I need to demonstrate that.
I would never push myself onto someone who does not value my expertise …saying “next” works for me.
I’m far from rich and I remember once years ago I tracked a listing and in the end I made 16 cents per/hour. Yuck!    I said never again.  There is so much of what we do that can’t be wrapped in a pretty package…we just do it and know how to do it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree nearly one hundred percent with Ann except the dollarization part.</p><p>I think especially if you are a new agent you must learn to do it. Is it line by line? No.  But in some basic categories you can and should know your value point. I know that for me, doing a CMA may take an average of 4 hours and that is before I even do the presentation and get the listing.  I also know what my out of pocket expense is to do that CMA.</p><p>I know what my experience is worth. So what would I charge to do CMA…is it as detailed as an appraisal?  Yes and do I charge more?  Yes I do.  Why?&#8230; because of my knowledge of the area, my working knowledge of what buyers are looking for. My years and years of experience… all add up. Can I break my experience down to a dollar value per hour…probably not.  My resume speaks for itself.</p><p>Same thing when I&#8217;m a buyer agent. I know what I charge and what I do and can clearly articulate to the buyer why they should hire me.</p><p>Like Ann, most of my business is repeat and referrals and that says a lot. But new agents in my opinion need to be able to dollarize what they do. ..the hard part for them is the experience part.  They need to be able to say here is what I do and here is why it benefits you…the “why it benefits you” is the value piece the consumer cares about.</p><p>How much am I worth and why that benefits my clients… I need to demonstrate that.<br
/> I would never push myself onto someone who does not value my expertise …saying “next” works for me.<br
/> I’m far from rich and I remember once years ago I tracked a listing and in the end I made 16 cents per/hour. Yuck!    I said never again.  There is so much of what we do that can’t be wrapped in a pretty package…we just do it and know how to do it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Blue Ridge Cabin Rentals</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-6458</link> <dc:creator>Blue Ridge Cabin Rentals</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 11:53:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1486#comment-6458</guid> <description>People use a realtor for a service and are charged for the service.  The breakdown of what all is included is not necessary it is understood.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People use a realtor for a service and are charged for the service.  The breakdown of what all is included is not necessary it is understood.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ann Cummings</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-6457</link> <dc:creator>Ann Cummings</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 11:30:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1486#comment-6457</guid> <description>Wade Young wrote: &quot;There really are some real estate agents who know an area, and you can’t get what is in their head online, in pictures or descriptions. The good agents are worth full commission and should not compromise.&quot;
Wade, that speaks volumes to those of us who bring to the table exactly what that agent did who found you that house that you would never have considered otherwise.  Hooray for you and double hooray for her!
My professional fees are between me and my clients, and I never DEFEND my fees.  I DEMONSTRATE my skills, my experience and expertise, my abilities and everything else I bring to the table for each of my clients.  Most of my business is repeat clients and word-of-mouth referrals, and that speaks volumes as to my abilities.
For all we are and all we do and all we bring to the table, I see absolutely no way and no reason to &#039;dollarize&#039; that.  How do you &#039;dollarize&#039; all the education and networking we do to stay on top of our game, to stay ahead of the majority of agents in our given areas?  Sure, you can &#039;dollarize&#039; some marketing and advertising, and you can &#039;dollarize&#039; the physical hours put into each client, but what about what&#039;s in our heads, as Wade put it?  What about the mental and emotional hours put into clients? No way on earth to &#039;dollarize&#039; that!
And as for trying to answer most of those who left comments on that post on AR, I firmly believe that it wouldn&#039;t matter one iota to those people what any of us would write there as their sole purpose is to bash each of us and rip our profession apart.  That&#039;s very clear when you look at the website they all are part of.  My time and my energies are better spent with those who really do appreciate what I stand for, and it&#039;s also better spent learning even more ways to bring even more value to my clients by reading and networking online.
Healthy realistic discussions are great and are also educational - nasty ones have nothing to be gained from them and are total time-wasters.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wade Young wrote: &#8220;There really are some real estate agents who know an area, and you can’t get what is in their head online, in pictures or descriptions. The good agents are worth full commission and should not compromise.&#8221;</p><p>Wade, that speaks volumes to those of us who bring to the table exactly what that agent did who found you that house that you would never have considered otherwise.  Hooray for you and double hooray for her!</p><p>My professional fees are between me and my clients, and I never DEFEND my fees.  I DEMONSTRATE my skills, my experience and expertise, my abilities and everything else I bring to the table for each of my clients.  Most of my business is repeat clients and word-of-mouth referrals, and that speaks volumes as to my abilities.</p><p>For all we are and all we do and all we bring to the table, I see absolutely no way and no reason to &#8216;dollarize&#8217; that.  How do you &#8216;dollarize&#8217; all the education and networking we do to stay on top of our game, to stay ahead of the majority of agents in our given areas?  Sure, you can &#8216;dollarize&#8217; some marketing and advertising, and you can &#8216;dollarize&#8217; the physical hours put into each client, but what about what&#8217;s in our heads, as Wade put it?  What about the mental and emotional hours put into clients? No way on earth to &#8216;dollarize&#8217; that!</p><p>And as for trying to answer most of those who left comments on that post on AR, I firmly believe that it wouldn&#8217;t matter one iota to those people what any of us would write there as their sole purpose is to bash each of us and rip our profession apart.  That&#8217;s very clear when you look at the website they all are part of.  My time and my energies are better spent with those who really do appreciate what I stand for, and it&#8217;s also better spent learning even more ways to bring even more value to my clients by reading and networking online.</p><p>Healthy realistic discussions are great and are also educational &#8211; nasty ones have nothing to be gained from them and are total time-wasters.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Wade Young</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-6455</link> <dc:creator>Wade Young</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 02:39:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1486#comment-6455</guid> <description>Mariana-- Good article, and I will throw in my experience for reference. I bought a house, and at the time, I didn&#039;t think much of realtors. I found them to be worthless, not worth the commissions they received. My wife did most of the house hunting, as is usual with most married couples. Unfortunately, she couldn&#039;t find anything that fit her tastes, and we HAD to have a house. My wife sent an email detailing the current house that we lived in, and she wanted something similar. We arrived by plane, and the realtor showed my wife the print outs of what she had to for us to look at. The house on the top of the stack -- well, it was the realtor&#039;s best -- and my wife immediately said that she refused to even look at it. The reason my wife didn&#039;t want to look at it? Well, the garage was attached, and that is something that my wife just wouldn&#039;t accept. Garages belong in the back, you know ... circa 1929 ... garages should know their place. How dare they be up with the rest of the house! Also, my wife was only interested in 1932 or before. The only thing the realtor had to show us was a brand new house with the garage in the front, but she begged my wife to at least look at the house, promising she would be interested. My wife relented, and well ... we bought the house. We also wanted to look at houses in the $200 range, and the house we bought was $405. That&#039;s a balls out real estate lady. The point is that the house was not our dream house, but she knew we would be happy there. The houses were new houses made (sort of) to look like old houses. The neighborhood was great. My son was born there. I am happy to have lived there, but I am also happy to have moved on (in a high rise now). The point is -- that real estate agent was worth every single dollar. She knew my wife. She knew what my wife was willing to accept. She knew the area. She arm twisted my wife. She delivered. My wife had scoped everything online, and found nada. She earned her money. I have since changed my opinion on real estate agents. I could never have found that house online, and we spent 4 happy years there. There really are some real estate agents who know an area, and you can&#039;t get what is in their head online, in pictures or descriptions.  The good agents are worth full commission and should not compromise.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mariana&#8211; Good article, and I will throw in my experience for reference. I bought a house, and at the time, I didn&#8217;t think much of realtors. I found them to be worthless, not worth the commissions they received. My wife did most of the house hunting, as is usual with most married couples. Unfortunately, she couldn&#8217;t find anything that fit her tastes, and we HAD to have a house. My wife sent an email detailing the current house that we lived in, and she wanted something similar. We arrived by plane, and the realtor showed my wife the print outs of what she had to for us to look at. The house on the top of the stack &#8212; well, it was the realtor&#8217;s best &#8212; and my wife immediately said that she refused to even look at it. The reason my wife didn&#8217;t want to look at it? Well, the garage was attached, and that is something that my wife just wouldn&#8217;t accept. Garages belong in the back, you know &#8230; circa 1929 &#8230; garages should know their place. How dare they be up with the rest of the house! Also, my wife was only interested in 1932 or before. The only thing the realtor had to show us was a brand new house with the garage in the front, but she begged my wife to at least look at the house, promising she would be interested. My wife relented, and well &#8230; we bought the house. We also wanted to look at houses in the $200 range, and the house we bought was $405. That&#8217;s a balls out real estate lady. The point is that the house was not our dream house, but she knew we would be happy there. The houses were new houses made (sort of) to look like old houses. The neighborhood was great. My son was born there. I am happy to have lived there, but I am also happy to have moved on (in a high rise now). The point is &#8212; that real estate agent was worth every single dollar. She knew my wife. She knew what my wife was willing to accept. She knew the area. She arm twisted my wife. She delivered. My wife had scoped everything online, and found nada. She earned her money. I have since changed my opinion on real estate agents. I could never have found that house online, and we spent 4 happy years there. There really are some real estate agents who know an area, and you can&#8217;t get what is in their head online, in pictures or descriptions.  The good agents are worth full commission and should not compromise.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ines</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-6451</link> <dc:creator>Ines</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:28:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1486#comment-6451</guid> <description>Mariana - your responses at AR were great and really give a clear picture.  I totally agree with you - a lot of those people want us to justify our pay their way as absurd as that may be.  And the whole scenario of getting paid on a performance basis......that&#039;s exactly what we do.  The house doesn&#039;t sell.....we don&#039;t get paid, no matter the hours and the marketing dollars and effort that has gone into the property.
I&#039;m still staying away.....but it&#039;s not easy.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mariana &#8211; your responses at AR were great and really give a clear picture.  I totally agree with you &#8211; a lot of those people want us to justify our pay their way as absurd as that may be.  And the whole scenario of getting paid on a performance basis&#8230;&#8230;that&#8217;s exactly what we do.  The house doesn&#8217;t sell&#8230;..we don&#8217;t get paid, no matter the hours and the marketing dollars and effort that has gone into the property.</p><p>I&#8217;m still staying away&#8230;..but it&#8217;s not easy.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mariana Wagner</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-6450</link> <dc:creator>Mariana Wagner</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:16:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1486#comment-6450</guid> <description>(Since the quote didn&#039;t show up...)
&lt;i&gt;&quot;First... I am paid for selling a home for a seller. If the home does not sell, I do not get paid. I get paid for the acceptable outcome - not for the &quot;specific things I do&quot; to get it sold. (I just happen to know the right things to do - and NOT do - to get it sold.) If THAT were the case, then I would bill my Sellers by the hour whether or not their house sold, which is a HORRIBLE business model IMHO ... and of NO good use to the Seller.
What I charge is at MY discretion. I am a small businees owner and it is MY decision how much I sell MY services/goods for.
And when all is said and done, commissions are ALWAYS negotiable.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Since the quote didn&#8217;t show up&#8230;)</p><p><i>&#8220;First&#8230; I am paid for selling a home for a seller. If the home does not sell, I do not get paid. I get paid for the acceptable outcome &#8211; not for the &#8220;specific things I do&#8221; to get it sold. (I just happen to know the right things to do &#8211; and NOT do &#8211; to get it sold.) If THAT were the case, then I would bill my Sellers by the hour whether or not their house sold, which is a HORRIBLE business model IMHO &#8230; and of NO good use to the Seller.</p><p>What I charge is at MY discretion. I am a small businees owner and it is MY decision how much I sell MY services/goods for.</p><p>And when all is said and done, commissions are ALWAYS negotiable.&#8221;</i></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mariana Wagner</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-6449</link> <dc:creator>Mariana Wagner</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:15:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1486#comment-6449</guid> <description>Ultimately, this is a private conversation between me and my Seller. It really is not the business of anyone else. I believe the financial model behind my business is sound, and my Sellers agree.
re: HP and the AR post... Why should I try to &quot;justify&quot; anything to someone who will never use my services, nor any other RE Agent services for that matter? Makes no sense. I might as well try to convince a Vegan to go deer hunting. Waste of time. (I would rather watch Growing Pains reruns.)
However, in support of that AR post, I did reply ...
&lt;blockquote&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ultimately, this is a private conversation between me and my Seller. It really is not the business of anyone else. I believe the financial model behind my business is sound, and my Sellers agree.</p><p>re: HP and the AR post&#8230; Why should I try to &#8220;justify&#8221; anything to someone who will never use my services, nor any other RE Agent services for that matter? Makes no sense. I might as well try to convince a Vegan to go deer hunting. Waste of time. (I would rather watch Growing Pains reruns.)</p><p>However, in support of that AR post, I did reply &#8230;</p><blockquote></blockquote> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Michael Zebold</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-6447</link> <dc:creator>Michael Zebold</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:04:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1486#comment-6447</guid> <description>I am not a Real Estate agent but a Mortgage Broker and there is always someone trying to cut my commissions or tries to justify the fees I charge. &lt;strong&gt;From what I learned in the business you are only worth what you ask for. &lt;/strong&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a Real Estate agent but a Mortgage Broker and there is always someone trying to cut my commissions or tries to justify the fees I charge. <strong>From what I learned in the business you are only worth what you ask for. </strong></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ines</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-6445</link> <dc:creator>Ines</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 15:56:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1486#comment-6445</guid> <description>Bob - it really is surprising that the questions have not been addressed and it&#039;s a real shame. I would be responding to every single objection because there are really valuable points being made.  What better place than to clear up the bad perception?  There are plenty of people there that will not change their minds and that&#039;s fine, but maybe they could get more information to base their opinions on.
Bill - the whole point in that conversation is that the consumer really doesn&#039;t know what our business entails and no one is explaining.  Talk about an opportunity to explain the process, the details and the obstacles that we encounter in every transaction.
Now about the other models - it gets a bit more difficult for the consumer to decide what services to pick and it also has to do with establishing rapport with the agent (if you choose to use one).  I can tell you that even within full-service companies, the value you will offer as opposed to the one I will offer will be totally different and that&#039;s the real beauty of blogging and explaining your value.
The &quot;monolithic manner&quot; in which the consumer views the industry also applies to the &quot;monolithic manner&quot; in which they talk about consumer needs - THAT&#039;s the part that intrigues me the most.  For someone to say....&quot;your full-service, full-commission model needs to change now because the consumer doesn&#039;t need you&quot; is ironic because there are plenty of consumers that prefer the &quot;full-service, full-commission&quot; model because not only do they not have the time to handle it themselves, they don&#039;t have the interest and are happy to pay for the commission.  And THOSE, my friend, are the customers I work with.
....Thank you for taking the time to comment and contribute to the discussion.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob &#8211; it really is surprising that the questions have not been addressed and it&#8217;s a real shame. I would be responding to every single objection because there are really valuable points being made.  What better place than to clear up the bad perception?  There are plenty of people there that will not change their minds and that&#8217;s fine, but maybe they could get more information to base their opinions on.</p><p>Bill &#8211; the whole point in that conversation is that the consumer really doesn&#8217;t know what our business entails and no one is explaining.  Talk about an opportunity to explain the process, the details and the obstacles that we encounter in every transaction.</p><p>Now about the other models &#8211; it gets a bit more difficult for the consumer to decide what services to pick and it also has to do with establishing rapport with the agent (if you choose to use one).  I can tell you that even within full-service companies, the value you will offer as opposed to the one I will offer will be totally different and that&#8217;s the real beauty of blogging and explaining your value.</p><p>The &#8220;monolithic manner&#8221; in which the consumer views the industry also applies to the &#8220;monolithic manner&#8221; in which they talk about consumer needs &#8211; THAT&#8217;s the part that intrigues me the most.  For someone to say&#8230;.&#8221;your full-service, full-commission model needs to change now because the consumer doesn&#8217;t need you&#8221; is ironic because there are plenty of consumers that prefer the &#8220;full-service, full-commission&#8221; model because not only do they not have the time to handle it themselves, they don&#8217;t have the interest and are happy to pay for the commission.  And THOSE, my friend, are the customers I work with.</p><p>&#8230;.Thank you for taking the time to comment and contribute to the discussion.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bill Lublin</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-6444</link> <dc:creator>Bill Lublin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 15:23:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1486#comment-6444</guid> <description>Ines: It is wonderful to see some articulation and reason to the conversation.
I have never had a problem explaining my fees to my clients (I don;t justify my commission - I justify to myself why I order a hot fudge brownie for desert) - And I agree that experience is not by itself an indication of skill, knowledge or expertise, (some people can take a week to make a three minute egg) but experiecne can be helpful and designations should be indicative of some level of even theoreticalknowledge. That being said, we do need to explain to the consumer the how we are compensated and what of a commission is being divided, (and why) and what portion of the fee goes to the overhead of the company, and how much goes to the person who secures the buyer becuase they are not familiar with the somewhat complex compensation arrangements that we make between our companies and our colleagues. The really sad part about that whole discussion is not only how little the uninformed consumer thinks we know , but how much they don&#039;t know about what the good competent informed agent with a good well organized company behind them actually does.
As far as flat fee or alternative business models - I have my own opinions, and I demonstrate them through the company I operate, but I believe that just listing a property on the MLS is no more effective than just sticking a sign in an electronic lawn - Even that business model relies upon the real estate community to sell the property - they (the consumer and that business model)  just seem to be of the opinion that there is little value in the efforts of the listing or marketing agents and their companies. And limited service or flat fee, or  discount brokers are entitled to charge whatever they want for whatever they do. After all, who knows better then they do what their time and efforts are worth?  I just don&#039;t want the consumer to think that we provide the same services when if fact, we do not.
I only wish that the consumer didn&#039;t view the industry and its members in such a monolithic manner so that the differences between all of these business models could be more readily discerned by the consumer. I just wouldn&#039;t want a consumer to feel that the only difference between these companies was price when there are substantial differences in the type of work and the potential results that they might receive.
Bit thanks again for making your points so well.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ines: It is wonderful to see some articulation and reason to the conversation.<br
/> I have never had a problem explaining my fees to my clients (I don;t justify my commission &#8211; I justify to myself why I order a hot fudge brownie for desert) &#8211; And I agree that experience is not by itself an indication of skill, knowledge or expertise, (some people can take a week to make a three minute egg) but experiecne can be helpful and designations should be indicative of some level of even theoreticalknowledge. That being said, we do need to explain to the consumer the how we are compensated and what of a commission is being divided, (and why) and what portion of the fee goes to the overhead of the company, and how much goes to the person who secures the buyer becuase they are not familiar with the somewhat complex compensation arrangements that we make between our companies and our colleagues. The really sad part about that whole discussion is not only how little the uninformed consumer thinks we know , but how much they don&#8217;t know about what the good competent informed agent with a good well organized company behind them actually does.</p><p>As far as flat fee or alternative business models &#8211; I have my own opinions, and I demonstrate them through the company I operate, but I believe that just listing a property on the MLS is no more effective than just sticking a sign in an electronic lawn &#8211; Even that business model relies upon the real estate community to sell the property &#8211; they (the consumer and that business model)  just seem to be of the opinion that there is little value in the efforts of the listing or marketing agents and their companies. And limited service or flat fee, or  discount brokers are entitled to charge whatever they want for whatever they do. After all, who knows better then they do what their time and efforts are worth?  I just don&#8217;t want the consumer to think that we provide the same services when if fact, we do not.</p><p>I only wish that the consumer didn&#8217;t view the industry and its members in such a monolithic manner so that the differences between all of these business models could be more readily discerned by the consumer. I just wouldn&#8217;t want a consumer to feel that the only difference between these companies was price when there are substantial differences in the type of work and the potential results that they might receive.</p><p>Bit thanks again for making your points so well.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bob</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-6443</link> <dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 15:02:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1486#comment-6443</guid> <description>I have been an agent before homes were ever on the Internet and consumer sentiment about real estate agents has not changed. We still rank pretty much in the same area as the used car salesman.
What has changed is the consumers ability to be heard. HP and sites like those are AR bloggers worst nightmare because so many agents write in a condescending manner about the consumer and those comments will see the light of day.
One of the biggest takeaways from that discussion is that you need to be willing to have whatever you write used against you, therefor you better be willing to own it in public.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been an agent before homes were ever on the Internet and consumer sentiment about real estate agents has not changed. We still rank pretty much in the same area as the used car salesman.</p><p>What has changed is the consumers ability to be heard. HP and sites like those are AR bloggers worst nightmare because so many agents write in a condescending manner about the consumer and those comments will see the light of day.</p><p>One of the biggest takeaways from that discussion is that you need to be willing to have whatever you write used against you, therefor you better be willing to own it in public.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Toronto realtor</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-6442</link> <dc:creator>Toronto realtor</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:30:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1486#comment-6442</guid> <description>Working as one of the real estate agents, I think that ater these years in the business I bring a certain credibility to this profession. The author of this article has point, I don&#039;t like seeing real estate agents as dishonest, mistrusted and useles in this era of the free information. I&#039;m not saying this only because I made my living on being the realtor, but this profession made very important rules and practices that helps the real estate business. Sure, there are lots creative, highly capable players on the market out there without any help of professional, but real estate agent is still not an &quot;antique&quot;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Working as one of the real estate agents, I think that ater these years in the business I bring a certain credibility to this profession. The author of this article has point, I don&#8217;t like seeing real estate agents as dishonest, mistrusted and useles in this era of the free information. I&#8217;m not saying this only because I made my living on being the realtor, but this profession made very important rules and practices that helps the real estate business. Sure, there are lots creative, highly capable players on the market out there without any help of professional, but real estate agent is still not an &#8220;antique&#8221;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ines</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-6441</link> <dc:creator>Ines</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:26:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1486#comment-6441</guid> <description>Missy - there are very few FSBO&#039;s in my area right now, because they have realized that they need all the exposure they can get and paying $300-$400 to place their house on the MLS is not enough.  My commission is never questioned, on the contrary, people are willing to pay more to get their house sold quicker.
As for what&#039;s going on over there -  I didn&#039;t like the comment about other Realtors not stepping in to help and answer the questions being asked.  It&#039;s her blog and she has not asked for help....I guess they don&#039;t understand blogging etiquette either.  The offensive comments should be removed without a doubt.
There are some great questions and comments there that I would love to address.......but it&#039;s not up to me.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Missy &#8211; there are very few FSBO&#8217;s in my area right now, because they have realized that they need all the exposure they can get and paying $300-$400 to place their house on the MLS is not enough.  My commission is never questioned, on the contrary, people are willing to pay more to get their house sold quicker.<br
/> As for what&#8217;s going on over there &#8211;  I didn&#8217;t like the comment about other Realtors not stepping in to help and answer the questions being asked.  It&#8217;s her blog and she has not asked for help&#8230;.I guess they don&#8217;t understand blogging etiquette either.  The offensive comments should be removed without a doubt.<br
/> There are some great questions and comments there that I would love to address&#8230;&#8230;.but it&#8217;s not up to me.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Florida Waterfront Real Estate</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/commission-justification/#comment-6438</link> <dc:creator>Florida Waterfront Real Estate</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:20:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1486#comment-6438</guid> <description>Providing a quality service is what one should strive to do and what consumers want any thing is less is that less.  So when shopping for a real estate agent this is what the consumer is trying to find the agent that appears to be of the same mind.  People go to real estate agents because they don&#039;t want to do it themselves and value there service and a fee is expected.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Providing a quality service is what one should strive to do and what consumers want any thing is less is that less.  So when shopping for a real estate agent this is what the consumer is trying to find the agent that appears to be of the same mind.  People go to real estate agents because they don&#8217;t want to do it themselves and value there service and a fee is expected.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
