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> <channel><title>Comments on: Bad Business Strategy!</title> <atom:link href="http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/bad-business-strategy/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/bad-business-strategy/</link> <description>News, insights, tools, and inspiration for business owners and professionals</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 04:53:16 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Mary Ann</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/bad-business-strategy/#comment-32403</link> <dc:creator>Mary Ann</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 21:46:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1607#comment-32403</guid> <description>Every company aims to formulate good strategy and execute that strategy well. But many times it is found that it was either good strategy, bad execution or bad strategy and good execution.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every company aims to formulate good strategy and execute that strategy well. But many times it is found that it was either good strategy, bad execution or bad strategy and good execution.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Thomas Johnson</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/bad-business-strategy/#comment-8918</link> <dc:creator>Thomas Johnson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 13:33:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1607#comment-8918</guid> <description>If you speak ill of a competitor, you lose a little bit of your soul.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you speak ill of a competitor, you lose a little bit of your soul.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bill Lublin</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/bad-business-strategy/#comment-8852</link> <dc:creator>Bill Lublin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 02:56:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1607#comment-8852</guid> <description>@Matthew - I agree that there are many REO agents who need to learn better how to relate to the real world
@Bob I agree that too many agents don;t know how to sell, and that their interpersonal skills could use some work - agressive isn;t a good substitute for skillful I feel your pain on the short sale situation - everyone seesm to think that there is a quick fix, and there just isn&#039;t
@Barry - Boo-Boo and I both thank you for the kind words - :-)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matthew &#8211; I agree that there are many REO agents who need to learn better how to relate to the real world</p><p>@Bob I agree that too many agents don;t know how to sell, and that their interpersonal skills could use some work &#8211; agressive isn;t a good substitute for skillful I feel your pain on the short sale situation &#8211; everyone seesm to think that there is a quick fix, and there just isn&#8217;t</p><p>@Barry &#8211; Boo-Boo and I both thank you for the kind words &#8211; <img
src='http://agbeat.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Barry Cunningham</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/bad-business-strategy/#comment-8843</link> <dc:creator>Barry Cunningham</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 20:59:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1607#comment-8843</guid> <description>Bill you hooked me on this one. Thanks for some valuable insight. I, like Russell find REO agents a bit smarter than the average bear.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill you hooked me on this one. Thanks for some valuable insight. I, like Russell find REO agents a bit smarter than the average bear.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bob</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/bad-business-strategy/#comment-8835</link> <dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 14:43:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1607#comment-8835</guid> <description>Bill, I think your main point goes to all aspects of business. Ripping the competition is frequently a losing strategy. Unfortunately, I&#039;ve seen it work enough to understand why agents still try it if they think they only have one shot.
Part of the problem is that many agents don&#039;t know how to sell. They push and insult, instead of asking questions with the goal of finding a need or problem that they could resolve or meet.
&lt;blockquote&gt;We try to help the coop by explaining to them how its going to work, but an amazing amount of them just don;t listen when we talk about timelines, response from the corporate client, the seller’s parameters and the guidelines they put out.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Dead on. I deal with short sales. EVERY situation is different due to multiple factors, but some agents are locked into their preconceived notions that they took away from a short sale workshop or office meeting. it doesn&#039;t matter what our parameters are, they&#039;ll argue or complain.
There are a few REO agents here that are just awful to deal with, but since the properties get sold, I doubt the asset manager cares. Another is a jewel to work with and I check her inventory first when looking for clients seeking REO deals.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, I think your main point goes to all aspects of business. Ripping the competition is frequently a losing strategy. Unfortunately, I&#8217;ve seen it work enough to understand why agents still try it if they think they only have one shot.</p><p>Part of the problem is that many agents don&#8217;t know how to sell. They push and insult, instead of asking questions with the goal of finding a need or problem that they could resolve or meet.</p><blockquote><p>We try to help the coop by explaining to them how its going to work, but an amazing amount of them just don;t listen when we talk about timelines, response from the corporate client, the seller’s parameters and the guidelines they put out.</p></blockquote><p>Dead on. I deal with short sales. EVERY situation is different due to multiple factors, but some agents are locked into their preconceived notions that they took away from a short sale workshop or office meeting. it doesn&#8217;t matter what our parameters are, they&#8217;ll argue or complain.</p><p>There are a few REO agents here that are just awful to deal with, but since the properties get sold, I doubt the asset manager cares. Another is a jewel to work with and I check her inventory first when looking for clients seeking REO deals.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Matthew Rathbun</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/bad-business-strategy/#comment-8830</link> <dc:creator>Matthew Rathbun</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 13:14:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1607#comment-8830</guid> <description>Bill,
In my area we have three primary REO agents to take care of an overwhelming number of REO properties.  I do think other agents (if for no other reason than spreading out the work) could do far better.
One of the three is exceptional and I have enjoyed working with her.  The other two are just bad.
I have reasonable expectations - 1.) present in a timely manner 2.) return phone calls and e-mails in 24 hours and 3.) know and obey the licensing law.
Like I said 1 of the 3 does that - the other two simply don&#039;t.  And not to open the can of worms, but the only difference in the three that comes to mind, is that the one who does fantastic job is a Realtor and the other two are simply licensees.  One actually was caught (rumored) to be living in the REO properties...
Obviously it&#039;s regional, like everything else in RE.  But what I am saying, is that I get your point.  Degrading other practitioners to get business is counter-intuitive; however given the chance to bend the ear of the Asset Manager who hires these guys - I wouldn&#039;t let go till they heard how badly these agents are ruining the lenders chances of selling the property.
MLS stats show that in my hometown, REO&#039;s are priced well under other homes; but stay on the market noticeably longer.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p><p>In my area we have three primary REO agents to take care of an overwhelming number of REO properties.  I do think other agents (if for no other reason than spreading out the work) could do far better.</p><p>One of the three is exceptional and I have enjoyed working with her.  The other two are just bad.</p><p>I have reasonable expectations &#8211; 1.) present in a timely manner 2.) return phone calls and e-mails in 24 hours and 3.) know and obey the licensing law.</p><p>Like I said 1 of the 3 does that &#8211; the other two simply don&#8217;t.  And not to open the can of worms, but the only difference in the three that comes to mind, is that the one who does fantastic job is a Realtor and the other two are simply licensees.  One actually was caught (rumored) to be living in the REO properties&#8230;</p><p>Obviously it&#8217;s regional, like everything else in RE.  But what I am saying, is that I get your point.  Degrading other practitioners to get business is counter-intuitive; however given the chance to bend the ear of the Asset Manager who hires these guys &#8211; I wouldn&#8217;t let go till they heard how badly these agents are ruining the lenders chances of selling the property.</p><p>MLS stats show that in my hometown, REO&#8217;s are priced well under other homes; but stay on the market noticeably longer.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Russell Shaw</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/bad-business-strategy/#comment-8825</link> <dc:creator>Russell Shaw</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 10:34:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1607#comment-8825</guid> <description>EXCELLENT post, Bill.  I liked everything about it.  Over the years, many many times I when I was in competition when asked about the other agents I would go out of my way to say something nice about them.  When I knew who they were, if they really were a great agent I would even say, &quot;If you hire them or me you are going to get a great agent, either way&quot;.  I can&#039;t think of a time when saying that didn&#039;t help me.
Also, I am sure some REO agents are bad about returning calls, etc., but overall I find them to be - by far - much better and smarter then the average agent.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EXCELLENT post, Bill.  I liked everything about it.  Over the years, many many times I when I was in competition when asked about the other agents I would go out of my way to say something nice about them.  When I knew who they were, if they really were a great agent I would even say, &#8220;If you hire them or me you are going to get a great agent, either way&#8221;.  I can&#8217;t think of a time when saying that didn&#8217;t help me.</p><p>Also, I am sure some REO agents are bad about returning calls, etc., but overall I find them to be &#8211; by far &#8211; much better and smarter then the average agent.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bill Lublin</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/bad-business-strategy/#comment-8817</link> <dc:creator>Bill Lublin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 04:59:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1607#comment-8817</guid> <description>Matthew; I think that the statements they made were not necessarily accurate (though they might have been) but the point is that its just not the way to get the business. I&#039;ve been an REO agent for 20 years, and there is a definitie disconnect between the average retail agent and the REO specialist.
The Retail agent has trouble understanding what the words &quot;as is&quot; means, and the REO agent is usually not as responsive to the needs of the buyer as they might be since they have so many investor buyers constantly seeking their attention, but the real deal here is that trashing the competition is abad way to try to get the attention of a client under any terms. We&#039;re constantly looking for new REO clients, and we nevere talk about the bad job the current agent is doing (even if they are) but rather about what we can bring to the table to suit their needs.
As far as dealing with REO agents from a cooperative perspective, I thik that the agent needs to have expectations that are different from the &quot;normal&quot; deal. We try to help the coop by explaining to them how its going to work, but an amazing amount of them just don;t listen when we talk about timelines, response from the corporate client, the seller&#039;s parameters and the guidelines they put out. Guess we just have to keep trying :-)
And BTW, Happy Mother&#039;s Day to everyone in your family!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew; I think that the statements they made were not necessarily accurate (though they might have been) but the point is that its just not the way to get the business. I&#8217;ve been an REO agent for 20 years, and there is a definitie disconnect between the average retail agent and the REO specialist.</p><p>The Retail agent has trouble understanding what the words &#8220;as is&#8221; means, and the REO agent is usually not as responsive to the needs of the buyer as they might be since they have so many investor buyers constantly seeking their attention, but the real deal here is that trashing the competition is abad way to try to get the attention of a client under any terms. We&#8217;re constantly looking for new REO clients, and we nevere talk about the bad job the current agent is doing (even if they are) but rather about what we can bring to the table to suit their needs.</p><p>As far as dealing with REO agents from a cooperative perspective, I thik that the agent needs to have expectations that are different from the &#8220;normal&#8221; deal. We try to help the coop by explaining to them how its going to work, but an amazing amount of them just don;t listen when we talk about timelines, response from the corporate client, the seller&#8217;s parameters and the guidelines they put out. Guess we just have to keep trying <img
src='http://agbeat.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>And BTW, Happy Mother&#8217;s Day to everyone in your family!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Matthew Rathbun</title><link>http://agbeat.com/editorials/real-estate/bad-business-strategy/#comment-8810</link> <dc:creator>Matthew Rathbun</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 03:41:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://agentgenius.com/?p=1607#comment-8810</guid> <description>Bill, I don&#039;t think the technique that these folks used is reasonable; but I agree with some of the statements.
My experience has been awful with almost every REO agent I&#039;ve ever dealt with.  There is only ONE exception to this and she was amazing.
Getting in touch with most of them is impossible, getting offers presented in a timely manner is impossible and half of the listings in our area that are REO, don&#039;t have signs and if you&#039;re REALLY lucky there might be a real lockbox and not a $2 combo box that you can&#039;t get the code to.
I know that they can do better because of the one agent I&#039;ve encountered who did a good job.  The number one complaint I hear from agents is in regards to the REO agents they have to work with.
If someone can do a better job so be it, but I agree that 90% of the peeps who seek REO listing agreements have no idea how poorly the lenders are going to make them look.
I think the REO&#039;s get treated like crap, so they pass that right along to the Buyer Broker who is trying to help them clear the inventory.
In both the case of the lender and REO.  Too much work, not enough money and insufficient staffing...  Sorry I just think there is a better way, I just haven&#039;t figured it out yet.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, I don&#8217;t think the technique that these folks used is reasonable; but I agree with some of the statements.</p><p>My experience has been awful with almost every REO agent I&#8217;ve ever dealt with.  There is only ONE exception to this and she was amazing.</p><p>Getting in touch with most of them is impossible, getting offers presented in a timely manner is impossible and half of the listings in our area that are REO, don&#8217;t have signs and if you&#8217;re REALLY lucky there might be a real lockbox and not a $2 combo box that you can&#8217;t get the code to.</p><p>I know that they can do better because of the one agent I&#8217;ve encountered who did a good job.  The number one complaint I hear from agents is in regards to the REO agents they have to work with.</p><p>If someone can do a better job so be it, but I agree that 90% of the peeps who seek REO listing agreements have no idea how poorly the lenders are going to make them look.</p><p>I think the REO&#8217;s get treated like crap, so they pass that right along to the Buyer Broker who is trying to help them clear the inventory.</p><p>In both the case of the lender and REO.  Too much work, not enough money and insufficient staffing&#8230;  Sorry I just think there is a better way, I just haven&#8217;t figured it out yet.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
